Drughi wrote:

Myles, I think it will start at end of the month... Well people, I am disillusioned with people that lead Juve, with fans approach but it is clear that farsical calciopoli killed football. Now you have refs as amateurs, every round you will see mistakes likes in Serie D... It is circus, you have people like Collina merda acting as clowns and our club agreed to take part in comedy... I think chance is missed with civil court ( Montezemolo will burn in hell for it ) to stop soccer and maybe clean this game... Now it is late...police and moron fans, corrupted refs, titles that are won by spying people... We are second class league at the moment.

Man, you are such an idiot and if you werent italian you'd have nowhere near as many people agreeing with you. Having said that the only people who have jumped in to agree with you in this thread are juve fans. No surprise there.

Having amateur refs does not mean that the same refs who were pro will lose all their refereeing powers and incapable. They will still be the best referees in Italy. If more training is required, then give it to them. But from what Ive seen they are no worse than refs anywhere else.
When was the last time you saw a Serie D match anyway?

A second class league containing among the world's best coaches, players, club infrastructures and fans? hmmm...

It isn't that every Juve supporter believes all these allegations, it is more so that we want to know the truth about whether or not the calciopoli trial was carried out properly and whether or not we should have been punished. Just looking for the truths, there is nothing wrong with that.

Of course it is mainly Juve supporters who are most concerned, we were the one's affected the most by the calciopoli sentences.

Fact is, alot of Inter supporters never shut up about corruption when ourselves and Milan were winning, but now you can't take it when the roles are reversed, tough!

Bobo32, you are genius.

Well said. I agree with you, even you are Inter, Atletico Madrid, Juve, Milan, Fiorentina, Torino, Monaco, Atalanta fan.

Drughi wrote:

Bobo32, you are genius. Well said. I agree with you, even you are Inter, Atletico Madrid, Juve, Milan, Fiorentina, Torino, Monaco, Atalanta fan.

peter?

Bobo, everyone knows Peter was your alias and you were just taking the piss! Everyone knows man.

haha thats funny. i can see why cos i thought he was well funny but alas no

Yeah right! You're busted!

Juve supporters will have their hearing on 15th May, according to Reuters.

Reuters 03/01/08

Is this a dumb question, if it then fair enough but Why have these stories never surfaced on calcioitalia website?

Or have they ?

juve counter attack and score. inter concdede against the run of play. where have i seen that before myles?

p.s. all the emoticons are on speed. perche?

1998.

It was a perfectly good...foul.

Tuten K wrote:

Is this a dumb question, if it then fair enough but Why have these stories never surfaced on calcioitalia website? Or have they ?

I think Moggi's hearing in the new trial is 8th February, so maybe they'll report on it then!

I don't get it. Juve fans hate Moggi for what he did, don't want him back but yet still believe they were set up and innocent.

The way I see it Juve fans should either believe they were set up and feel sorry for Moggi and want him back or believe the allegations were true and want Moggi to pay for it.

I can't figure how Juve can claim it isn't true though. If Moggi did nothing wrong why did he resign and do the bolt.

If I was innocent of allegations made against me I wouldn't be running and then only resurfacing my head after question marks are raised over how legitimate the evidence was obtained.

Fair point Ferri, however, there is a big difference between a board telling you to resign or get sacked and choosing to leave.

Ferri, you can't ask us to decide now, since they are only allegations no-one knows for sure who is really guilty of what yet. When the trial is concluded and the civil court reveals it's judgement then we can decide whether it was a Moggi system or a Montezemolo/Moratti system. Until that happens, we're all in limbo.

For some reason i looked at this thread again and given drughi's staunch anti-inter/moratti stance it wouldnt surprise me of he was peter. hahah
he hasnt posted since.

the internet is a weird and wonderful place

mostly weird

Come on now Bobo, we know Peter is your alter ego...maybe you should start a fight club with Peter!

Bobo32...you are official clown of new forum...instead of Ronnie...

Internet is great place for your lack of social life.

Lets see...no girlfriend, living in basement with harsh parents, pizza face that cant be cured by ordinary acne medicine. You are nervous for most of the day, hands sweating like hell, losing power to talk in front of schoolmates.

Looking at TV, wanting to be soccer player only as way to get some girls...but there is problem, you have no talent.

Try with surfing, you dont need to be smart and living on sea wawes will help your skin...

Ferri, I dont like Moggi and will agree that he tried to influence refs...but all clubs did it...and only Juve payed for it. I said it is clash in Juventus ranks and part of family wanted him out...but there is nothing with our titles. Look man you were trailing 30 points or so every f**king season and Juventus had whole f**king team in WC finals    and now you claim we stopped you being champions...

Man, with your transfer politics    you couldnt win anything...

Most Juve fans dont like Moggi because of other things... you know, Capello, working with Viola at transfer market, making deals with Roma and some things from the past, I dont want to mention...police and other things...but man dont matter, civil court will decide...

Italy is only Western country where you are sentenced without trial and need to prove innocence before they convinct you. Lack of democracy...nothing else.

Calciopoli 2: Dry heard from the Prosecutor FIGC 'All right'
16:10 del 09 gennaio 16:10, January 09
16.10 Il ds del Bari, Giorgio Perinetti ha dichiarato all'arrivo in procura federale Figc: "Se si leggono gli atti, ho ben poco da chiarire". 16.10 The ds of Bari, Giorgio Perinetti said upon arrival in Figc Federal Prosecutor: "If you read the documents, I have very little to clarify."

14.45 All'uscita della Procura federale della Figc, il ds juventino Alessio Secco ha dichiarato: "E' andata bene, sono sereno e penso di aver chiarito la mia posizione". At 14.45 of the Federal Prosecutor of the FIGC, ds juventino Alessio Secco said: "It 'went well, I am calm and I think I have clarified my position."

11.40 Il direttore sportivo della Juventus, Alessio Secco è arrivato negli uffici della procura federale della Figc per essere sentito nell'ambito dell'inchiesta sui contenuti delle ultime intercettazioni telefoniche. 11.40 The sports director of Juventus, Alessio Secco arrived in the offices of the Federal Prosecutor FIGC to be heard as part of the contents of the latest telephone interceptions. Il dirigente bianconero è arrivato da solo e prima di entrare si è limitato a dirsi "sereno". The white manager arrived alone and the first to enter merely said "peaceful".

Venerdì sarà il turno del vice presidente federale e presidente della Lega Dilettanti, Carlo Tavecchio e del presidente del Torino, Urbano Cairo . Friday will be the turn of the federal president and vice president of the League Amateur, Carlo Tavecchio and President of Turin, Urbano Cairo.
Deve ancora essere fissato invece il giorno dell'audizione di Mario Auriemma, ex presidente del Giorgione e del Civitavecchia e padre di Raffaele, ds della Nuorese. It has yet to be fixed instead of the day of Mario Auriemma, former chairman of Giorgione and Civitavecchia and father of Raphael, ds of Nuorese. Settimana prossima dovrebbe toccare a Giulio Pazzanese, dipendente Figc che ha chiesto di essere sentito sulla storia dei biglietti per Moggi. Next week should tap to Julius Pazzanese, FIGC official who asked to be heard on the history of tickets for Moggi. Non si sa se verranno interrogati Ronzani e Catalano. It is not known if questioned Ronzani and Catalan. Forse toccherà anche all'avvocato Gallavotti, consulente Figc da tantissimi anni. Perhaps even touch the suspected Gallavotti, Figc consultant for many years. A fine mese, Palazzi chiuderà l'inchiesta. At the end of the month, Palazzi close the investigation.
Intanto l'8 febbraio a Napoli inizia la seconda udienza preliminare per Calciopoli 1. Meanwhile, on 8 February in Naples begins the second preliminary hearing for Calciopoli 1.
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Myles wrote:

Come on now Bobo, we know Peter is your alter ego...maybe you should start a fight club with Peter!

Drughi wrote:

Bobo32...you are official clown of new forum...instead of Ronnie... Internet is great place for your lack of social life. Lets see...no girlfriend, living in basement with harsh parents, pizza face that cant be cured by ordinary acne medicine. You are nervous for most of the day, hands sweating like hell, losing power to talk in front of schoolmates. Looking at TV, wanting to be soccer player only as way to get some girls...but there is problem, you have no talent. Try with surfing, you dont need to be smart and living on sea wawes will help your skin...

haha come on man...you gotta be kidding me. this is an even funnier sendup than peter was originally lol