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Post 05-06-17 13:33
Sky Italia says Sczezny is done as is Keita, Schick will soon be done as well.


Tolisso, Fabinho and Can are midfield options.
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Post 11-06-17 14:36
I'd like Douglas Costa and feel he'd be a great option for the squad.  He's exactly the sort of signing which should be being made.
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Post 14-06-17 15:33
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I'd like Douglas Costa and feel he'd be a great option for the squad. He's exactly the sort of signing which should be being made.
Hi Liam.

Today this  .......

40 Mio! Costa vor Abflug nach Turin (Bild)

It seems Costa will be our second signing.
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Post 14-06-17 19:27
We need wingers for the 4231 and Costa fits the profile. I'd like Bernardeschi to keep it Italian.

What I'm thinking of right now though is Donnarumma. If there really is a falling out with Milan, then Juve need to get on that. It would solve the goalkeeping position for the next 20 years as he's only 18. The guy is a monster. There were times last season when we were playing Milan that I thought we're never gonna score past this guy, and i think if a goalie gives you that feeling he must be something special. One year with Buffon showing him the ropes, then he could take over once Gigi retires. I'd happily use up a good slice of this summer's transfer kitty to sign him. Maybe we'd then have to miss out on other targets, but it would be worth it long term.
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Post 15-06-17 13:01
Donnarumma is a dream signing, but I'm not sure if it's a realistic one.  Milan will get strong again at some point and I feel he'd ideally want to stick around for that.  And would they sell to another Italian side?  I'm not sure.

He will replace Buffon for Italy and will surely be number one there for 20 years.
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Post 15-06-17 19:10
Donnarumma is not worth the hassle, Raiola would have the media constantly speculating on rumours created by Raiola himself just to up his salary every single summer.

Tbh, saw my fair share of poor decision making by Donnarumma last season to suggest he's a long way to go before he truly commands his area, keepin isn't just shotstopping. He has a lot of potential because he's excellent for his age but that doesn't mean he's worth that already, and while pre-empting that unfulfilled potential saves money and wins trophies down the line, i'm not 100% convinced by some aspects of his play last season. Maybe a bit overhyped at the moment. Probably will be a superstar but if he went to Juve now or next summer Raiola would have him off to somewhere else sooner rather than later. I'd also question his character after this saga, supposedly a Milan supporter yet won't 'settle' for a 4.5m salary at the age of 18!

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Post 15-06-17 20:03
I was stunned when I read that Donnarumma knocked back a contract with his boyhood heroes at 18 years old. Stunned. Then I saw who his agent was, then it made perfect sense.

This is where we are right now with modern day football.

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Post 16-06-17 07:10
So, it looks like Donnarumma has done a runner!

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Post 16-06-17 12:55
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Donnarumma is not worth the hassle, Raiola would have the media constantly speculating on rumours created by Raiola himself just to up his salary every single summer.

Tbh, saw my fair share of poor decision making by Donnarumma last season to suggest he's a long way to go before he truly commands his area, keepin isn't just shotstopping. He has a lot of potential because he's excellent for his age but that doesn't mean he's worth that already, and while pre-empting that unfulfilled potential saves money and wins trophies down the line, i'm not 100% convinced by some aspects of his play last season. Maybe a bit overhyped at the moment. Probably will be a superstar but if he went to Juve now or next summer Raiola would have him off to somewhere else sooner rather than later. I'd also question his character after this saga, supposedly a Milan supporter yet won't 'settle' for a 4.5m salary at the age of 18!

I agree I can't see him being someone who sticks around at a club for more than a decade like Buffon.  The story about him all but signing for Inter when he was younger and then going to Milan perhaps says a lot.

I'm stunned he's turned down a new deal with Milan.  Say what you want about their form in recent seasons, they're a massive club with the potential to be at the top of the European game in the future.
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Post 17-06-17 14:09
I don't think Donnarumma has done anything bad, he was offered a contract and he didn't accept it, what's all the fuss about? This happens all over the world in every industry, I think if he were not 18 years old there wouldn't be half the furor over this.

Milan are not in the champions league and there are at least 3 teams in Italy stronger than them, so no guarantee they'll finish top 4 next season. Plus are they really going to be challenging for the league anytime soon?

I think Riaola probably saw the messy takeover and has questions about the stability of the club and thought it wasn't the best environment for his client. I'm not his biggest fan either, the whole Pogba saga last year was sickening from a fans perspective, but I think when you take away the emotional fan aspect of it all, it makes sense for Donnarumma.
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Post 17-06-17 15:19
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I think Riaola probably saw the messy takeover and has questions about the stability of the club and thought it wasn't the best environment for his client.

That's a very good point.

I still wouldn't want him at Juve because the club wouldn't be able to build a defense around him with the constant transfer speculation that comes with Raiola's clients.
I've always felt Juve always consider the goalkeeper as the most important person on the pitch, so couldn't have that instability in such a pivitol role on the team.

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Post 17-06-17 16:38
Moise Kean is another one of Raiola's clients so as soon as he's good enough to command massive salary Raiola will ship him out to Real Madrid or Manchester United.

The problem for the industry is that the money Raiola gets never goes back into football so while getting 2m for each transfer would be a reasonable amount for any agent, getting up to 49m from the Pogba transfer is too much to be leaving the sport. Maybe the football authorities will do something about it when they think about it, or the clubs start expressing their concern.

It makes it difficult to get excited about the upcoming talent on your books, the likes of Kean, because as soon as he's nailed down a regular first team place he'll be gone, so he's not even a prospect for us, he's a prospect for RM or whoever, so i kind of don't give a shit now if Kean becomes great or not, because he won't be great for us. The money we make off his future sale will be good but as a fan it's hard to get passionate about that aspect.

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Post 17-06-17 16:46
The brass tax is it's up to Italian football to up it's game in marketing and that starts with getting the new stadiums built today, not tomorrow, because tomorrow in Italy means 10 years down the line.
If the league gets to become the richest league then they wouldn't have to worry about these agents because Italian clubs could become the RM's of this world and be able to afford to fork out the big money for these prospects.
Of course the authorities and some club presidents keep telling us how much Italian football has improved yada yada, patting themselves on the back all the time. When they're still a million miles behind where they should be.

It doesn't have to take oil or chinese money, the clubs can still successfully market in the middle east and asian without being owned by them, they're just too incompetent to do it. The clubs can be the richest in the world with Italian owners if they weren't such dimwits. The problem is a lot of the Italian owners kind of settle for what they have, should never just settle, the moment they start to settle for their lot means they've lost the passion to continue as an owner, they just won't admit it to themselves. Passion fuels the obsession to constantly improve. Half the owners don't have the passion for it yet they never shut up telling everyone how they are the clubs biggest fan, it's just an ego thing, and yet think too small about the clubs, should be thinking big ideas and big dreams for the club and then try to make it come true, instead of just sitting on their laurels.

Rant over. (I think)

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The brass tax is it's up to Italian football to up it's game in marketing and that starts with getting the new stadiums built today, not tomorrow, because tomorrow in Italy means 10 years down the line.
If the league gets to become the richest league then they wouldn't have to worry about these agents because Italian clubs could become the RM's of this world and be able to afford to fork out the big money for these prospects.
Of course the authorities and some club presidents keep telling us how much Italian football has improved yada yada, patting themselves on the back all the time. When they're still a million miles behind where they should be.

It doesn't have to take oil or chinese money, the clubs can still successfully market in the middle east and asian without being owned by them, they're just too incompetent to do it. The clubs can be the richest in the world with Italian owners if they weren't such dimwits. The problem is a lot of the Italian owners kind of settle for what they have, should never just settle, the moment they start to settle for their lot means they've lost the passion to continue as an owner, they just won't admit it to themselves. Passion fuels the obsession to constantly improve. Half the owners don't have the passion for it yet they never shut up telling everyone how they are the clubs biggest fan, it's just an ego thing, and yet think too small about the clubs, should be thinking big ideas and big dreams for the club and then try to make it come true, instead of just sitting on their laurels.

Rant over. (I think)

The 90's was great for Italian football with all the European success of multiple clubs, and it being the richest league, but it was also a missed opportunity.

The money should have been spent trying to build a sustainable football competition, i.e. youth development, marketing, facilities, stadiums, fighting racism/crowd trouble etc, not spent on yet more big name players.  Instead we saw Fiorentina, Napoli and Torino go bust, a whole host of others struggle financially, and there's been concerns for years that Italy doesn't produce as many great players as in the past, and that those players aren't fulfilling their potential.

In its defence Serie A has an almost identical coefficient to the Premier League over 5 years despite the financial gap.  In fact it was probably the performance of Leicester City that kept the Premier League ahead!
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Post 25-06-17 19:49
Alves & Sandro off , more upset about Sandro tbh, he has become a stalwart as LB, what's Marotta up-to I wonder?
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Post 25-06-17 21:42
Marotta has serious work to do.

If we are selling Alex Sandro for a reported 70m then it is good business. The replacement is critical and it maybe that we would ask for a player exchange and cash deal - Azpilacueta for example.

I'd prefer Mendy. Monaco would want 45m (50m).

I have a feeling that this is going to be awkward mercato for us.

Conte may also request Bonucci.

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Post 26-06-17 18:04
Alves I'm not fussed about.  He's 34 and was only ever a short term signing.  He's also one of the worst defenders I've ever seen, as good as his attacking play is.  And his attitude is questionable.

Sandro, we'll see what happens.  If he goes Chelsea need squeezing for every penny.  The fees being talked about are ridiculously high.

I trust Marotta, Paratici and co to get it right regardless of what happens, after all they've improved the team every year even when key players have left.
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Grazie for your head of scouting, MUFC salutes you!      
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Lupo Pazzesco wrote:
Grazie for your head of scouting, MUFC salutes you!

I'll take your seal of approval as compliment.
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