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Post 09-12-07 14:00
Loved this exchange on the BBC Sport website forum after this morning's fight.


Some yank: "Karma is a bitch as we say in the US. The English show no class by booing the national anthems of other nations and they get knocked of Euro 2008. The Americans are polite during God Save The Queen. The English boo the American anthem and Hatton gets knocked out. Go figure."

Reply: "Yeh, that's definitely the reason Hatton lost. It was embarrassing that those people booed your anthem, but unfortunately this seems to have become the English way at international sporting events. On the other hand, your country's government has endorsed the kidnap ("extraordinary rendition") and torture ("enhanced interrogation techniques") of suspected criminals in an illegal prison ("Guantanamo Bay"). If karma is such a "bitch" as you believe, then I think you've got bigger things to be worrying about than a few drunken Mancs booing your precious anthem. Take it on the chin..."


Priceless retort . I set my alarm to listen to it at 4am. Wish Hatton could have lasted the whole fight but, refereeing aside, he did get his ass kicked. Too light for the weight, no plan B. And Hamilton Sports Personality of the Year.

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Post 10-12-07 07:05
And the reply has to do with sports how???

Anyways, Mayweather was always gonna b!tch slap Hatton in this bout.  Mayweather is just too damn good right now.  Anybody would have gotten the same beating.

He is the best pound for pound right now by far.

Hatton shouldn't feel too down about the performance.


Forza Dallas Cowboys!!!

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Post 10-12-07 15:07
Er, because it was about events surrounding a boxing match. And the last I heard boxing was a sport. Don't get pedantic about it, dude.

How is America's team playing these days, by the way? Is Debbie still 'doing' them ?

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Post 10-12-07 15:42
Look at how big my internet penis is guys

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Post 10-12-07 15:46
You call that big.....?

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Post 10-12-07 21:04
There was no need to boo the national anthem though was there?!

Mayweather's entrance music was kinda of funny 'I was born in the USA', sort of reminded me of Appollo creed before the Ivan Drago fight

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Post 11-12-07 07:13
Cowboys flying high at 12-1 with 3 games left in regular season!

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Post 12-12-07 00:03
blackandblue wrote:
Loved this exchange on the BBC Sport website forum after this morning's fight.


Some yank: "Karma is a bitch as we say in the US. The English show no class by booing the national anthems of other nations and they get knocked of Euro 2008. The Americans are polite during God Save The Queen. The English boo the American anthem and Hatton gets knocked out. Go figure."

Reply: "Yeh, that's definitely the reason Hatton lost. It was embarrassing that those people booed your anthem, but unfortunately this seems to have become the English way at international sporting events. On the other hand, your country's government has endorsed the kidnap ("extraordinary rendition") and torture ("enhanced interrogation techniques") of suspected criminals in an illegal prison ("Guantanamo Bay"). If karma is such a "bitch" as you believe, then I think you've got bigger things to be worrying about than a few drunken Mancs booing your precious anthem. Take it on the chin..."


Priceless retort . I set my alarm to listen to it at 4am. Wish Hatton could have lasted the whole fight but, refereeing aside, he did get his ass kicked. Too light for the weight, no plan B. And Hamilton Sports Personality of the Year.


Sorry, but there is nothing big and clever about this retort.

The typical British way is modelled on Scouse blamelessness - "we done nuffin wrong", or "the policing was way over the top", or "they started it". I welcome the day when Ingerlund fans accept accountability and responsibility for their actions, and be collectively bold enough to admit defeat.

What happened at the MGM was a complete and utter disgrace. To do it on American soil does not only bring the rest of us into disrepute but makes us look like the bigoted arse-end of the world.

I suspect the Hatton entourage was infiltrated by the moronic element of football followers in this country with their mundane chanting to the same old boring tunes, meaningless tattooes and designer clothing. This was their consolation for not being able to ransack the towns and cities of Switzerland and Austria next summer. I admire the local population for their sustained tolerance of slurs like "who are yer", and the vitriol being spouted in the direction of Mayweather at the pre-bout press conference.

I am pleased that Britain leads the way in harmonising race relations and its tolerance of people of ethnic backgrounds - from top to bottom society bangs the drum about the slightest form of abuse and discrimination. But I believe that disrespecting national anthems of other countries is just as bad. How would society react to the booing of a black person?

All in all, what happened on Saturday is indicative of the pig-ignorant dipso-fatso-ASBO country we have become; a decadent place with no moral or ethical standards, with callous disregard for others (including apathy for our returning servicemen), and a nation which spawns selfish materialism.

The comparison with Guantanamo Bay is as irrelevant as it is futile. It is also deeply inaccurate, but that's another story. If we're about to tie yob behaviour to foreign policy then we may as well go back to World War II when the common consensus was anything other than to espouse trendy anti-American bollocks.

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Post 12-12-07 06:32
Speak it brother Bracey!

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Post 13-12-07 14:59
All good (and valid)points, Bracey, no doubt. If you looked at the original return quote I doubt the author would disagree with you either. However, the 'karma' part did make me smile. There are more serious things to worry about in the world.

And congratulations to the Cowboys for doing quite well, Duncan. Never a fan myself, more of a Chicago Bears fan, having lived for a very short time in the Windy City back in the eighties. And liking it even in winter!

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Post 13-12-07 18:06
To be fair to the author of the retort, what he/she wrote was rather more elegant than 'Karma? B*ll*cks', which was clearly the gist of what the response was attempting to convey.

I don't think anyone other than the mindless halfwits who actually boo national anthems would disagree with the sentiment (which the author doesn't); the author was having a go at the NelsonMuntz-esque Ha Ha! tone of the posting about karma, suggesting that there are slightly more serious issues to worry about than a group of people whose collective IQ probably doesn't stretch much into three figures booing the national anthem.

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Post 13-12-07 20:13
I agree Bracey.  It makes me laugh when people in this country (rightly) criticise the racist behaviour towards black players of Italian/Spanish/Eastern European fans, when those same people are always being disrespectful about other countries themselves.

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Post 14-12-07 00:40
I think the Americans probably would have booed ours if the place wasn't full of Rich Americans but still there was no need to boo on their turf

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Post 14-12-07 00:40
Dave wrote:
To be fair to the author of the retort, what he/she wrote was rather more elegant than 'Karma? B*ll*cks', which was clearly the gist of what the response was attempting to convey.

I don't think anyone other than the mindless halfwits who actually boo national anthems would disagree with the sentiment (which the author doesn't); the author was having a go at the NelsonMuntz-esque Ha Ha! tone of the posting about karma, suggesting that there are slightly more serious issues to worry about than a group of people whose collective IQ probably doesn't stretch much into three figures booing the national anthem.


Karma: 'a belief system that is similar to the saying "what goes around, comes around". Karma can be either good or bad. What you do in this life will determine whether you are rewarded or punished in the next life'.

Perhaps the author/respondent used abstract terminology. Either that or I'm just thick (probably both). I just don't see what this definition has to do with In-ger-lund fans and how it ties in to Guantanamo Bay. I'll sleep on it.

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Post 14-12-07 00:50
N.B.

I do see the point of the posts of both Dave and bnb. Indeed, there are worse things in life. It was, however, an unmissable opportunity to have a long overdue rant at British underclass culture. True, the booing did not hurt anyone. But, it was simply a form of disrespect - a large problem we now face on this island which manifests itself in many ways (most notably mindless 'Chav' violence).

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Post 14-12-07 01:07
I think that the respondant was merely trying to point out that the Karma author may have over-spiritualised the reason Hatton lost - namely he wasn't quite good enough, before suggesting that those dwelling in glass houses ought to avoid chucking mildly self-righteous bricks about the place. Inguhland! halfwits booing national anthems probably scores a little lower on the potential karma scale in comparison to Gitmo/Iraq, etc, etc. I may be giving too much credit to a lentil-eating Guardianista, though... (no offence to the majority of Grauniad readers intended)

I agree with you about the respect bit, though. Having a 'Respect Agenda' isn't going to solve the problem...

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Post 14-12-07 07:42
BNB--  living roughly 30 miles from Chi-town myself, everyone in my family support the Bears.  I don;t mind them, but I have always been a Cowboy fan first

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Post 22-12-07 12:28
Those boorish, booze-swilling, booing Brits made two mistakes:

1. Obviously booing the American national anthem in America.
2. Assuming the Americans would understand the true nature of the booing - chiefly sporting in nature - as opposed to geuinely anti-American in and of itself.

British fans think nothing of booing the opposing the national anthem and they probably shouldn't, but really the motivation for doing so is sporting rivalry first and foremost and genuine spite second (if at all) and I recommend people don't get too worked up over it.

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Post 05-01-08 18:06
Just been to the gym at Warwick Uni, and noticed loads of posh students playing a weird game on the 5-a-side court. Anyone know what it is? It's a cross between frisbee and American Football, with 2 teams of 5 geeks each, throwing the frisbee to each other and trying to get a touchdown.

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Post 05-01-08 21:03
They might be geeks for being at Uni and playing a wanky game, but what does that make someone who goes along to watch them?

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