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fantas1sta

Udinese Calcio, est. 1896

(Edit by Myles: First 7 posts in this thread were originally posted in the BTTMUU thread)

The number of bad calls the big clubs always get in their favour.  Chiellini very clearly elbowed Pablo Armero in the face off the ball after taking down Di Natale from behind moments earlier, but the referee completely ignored it and then handed a free kick for nothing to Juve at the other end of the pitch.  Obviously Juve haven't had the run of the officiating since Farsopoli, but it's so hard to be a fan of a smaller team, which in this case is Udinese.
Myles

I thought Chiellini's tackle was very good and legal, but i would.
fantas1sta

Myles wrote:
I thought Chiellini's tackle was very good and legal, but i would.
The one on Armero could only be called a tackle in the American football sense.
Myles

I meant the one on Di Natale. What about the advantage the ref should have given to Juve but instead hauled it back.

The home team gets favours anyway but you lost because you conceded two goals and the ref didn't make them.
fantas1sta

Myles wrote:
I meant the one on Di Natale. What about the advantage the ref should have given to Juve but instead hauled it back.

The home team gets favours anyway but you lost because you conceded two goals and the ref didn't make them.
Fully aware of that. It's frustrating though because Juve didn't even have that many chances, aside from the last 15 minutes of the first half it was pretty even.  What decided it was Conte bringing in Marchisio, it gave Juve stability in the midfield and prevented Udinese from catching Juve short on the counter like they did over and over before he came in.  It's frustrating though because it was so obvious and the referee completely ignored it, and since it happened in the box, there was no way he was going to call it, especially that late in the game.  Can you imagine if, say, Ferronetti had done that to Matri?
Myles

Yeah, the Marchisio substitution was the biggest factor in the game for me. As you say it stablised Juve and we were a bit all over the shop before that.

Your team is really good though, i think you'll stay ahead of Inter, hopefully anyway  
fantas1sta

Myles wrote:
Yeah, the Marchisio substitution was the biggest factor in the game for me. As you say it stablised Juve and we were a bit all over the shop before that.

Your team is really good though, i think you'll stay ahead of Inter, hopefully anyway  
Thinking about Inter, period, is something I usually prefer not to do, especially when trying to get over a bad mood.

I actually hope Juve win the Scudetto this year because I like anything that makes Inter fans' (and directors) underwear bunched up, it's just frustrating because I felt it was a fairly even game.
fantas1sta

Udinese Calcio, est. 1896

The thread for all things relating to the second-oldest club in calcio.  The trophies will come... someday.  Fuarce l'Udin.  










(Edit by Myles: Images resized as agreed with fantas1sta)
Liam

I thought the ref was fair tonight.  I disagreed once or twice about decisions he gave for Udinese.

I can't recall the foul apparently committed on Di Natale.  I remember seeing a player go down in the box after a cross from the right, but I didn't see it clearly, and nobody appealed for anything, so I assumed it was fair.
Myles

Wow! Didn't take Pazienza long to settle.
Guest

Fastidiouscat is still going at it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqF8hbZUQV0

Got the Juve score wrong at the weekend though
fantas1sta

Another bad result this weekend against Cagliari, fortunately Lazio and Inter both have decided they aren't interested in 3rd place, though.  The point against Cagliari actually sent us back up into 3rd.  I know our crazy run of form has to end sooner or later, hopefully this is just a hiccup though and not a sign that the season is about to slide downhill from here.
Lupo Pazzesco

I got travel sick reading the last post!

Udinese were unlucky last night as I thought it was a poor decision by the ref for the sending off. Up till that point you were well in control of the game and heading for third but it's now anyone from three. I'd love to think Roma could make it from four & do it but the away form is a disaster.
fantas1sta

Lupo Pazzesco wrote:
I got travel sick reading the last post!

Udinese were unlucky last night as I thought it was a poor decision by the ref for the sending off. Up till that point you were well in control of the game and heading for third but it's now anyone from three. I'd love to think Roma could make it from four & do it but the away form is a disaster.
Sorry, blame my photos in the first post for that... Whoops.

But it was a tough draw to accept for exactly that reason, Napoli got a lot of decisions from the ref even aside from Fabbrini's two dismissals, and it cost us the chance to get back ahead of Lazio.  Our performance was definitely much better than it has been over the last month though, so at least that's a positive, we dropped 2 points but hopefully we can get back on track after this.
Myles

fantas1sta wrote:
Sorry, blame my photos in the first post for that... Whoops.


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Mezz

Udinese promising to take care of Morisini's disabled sister is a very noble gesture.

I had no idea that his personal life had been so traumatic, which makes his death all the more saddening.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/footbal...nese-piermario-morosini-di-natale
VB

Looks like 'feeder' team Udinese will grab 3rd spot... Gonna be a blast from the past seeing the CL draw with  Serie A having only 2 representatives...
Myles

If any of the four clubs in contention deserves the reward of CL it's Udinese, precisely for that fact that they've feeded the top clubs for years. Even if they do loose their preliminary i hope they get 3rd spot, otherwise Napoli, but not the other two.
fantas1sta

If Atalanta had earned a point against Lazio then they would've been out of the race and we would've needed just a point against Catania to secure qualification, so we're going to have to do this the hard way.  Look for Inter to roll over for Lazio next weekend, especially if they lose the derby against Milan, so we're going to have to beat Catania away, which won't be too easy.  I thought that after our poor run during February and March our chances for 3rd were over, but fortunately Lazio, Napoli and Roma slumped at the same time.

A 3rd place finish would equal our best finish ever in 1997-98, riding capocannoniere Oliver Beirhoff. Of course, back then, that was only good enough for the UEFA Cup...
Lupo Pazzesco

Well done on getting third place tonight. It was a relatively comfortable match besides Catania's (terrible) penalty and you deserved it over the season. Now you just need to hang on to that squad for next season!
fantas1sta

O CE BIEL, O CE BIEL CISCJEL A UDIN....              

The joy is indescribable. Now we just have to make sure that our Friulano manager Guidolin doesn't leave and that we stay competitive.  I think Asamoah and Isla are likely to go, I think the former is more replaceable than the latter though, despite us still managing to hold onto third while Isla was injured.  Still, even if we do sell them, we have German Denis, Luis Muriel and Juan Cuadrado, among others, out on loan, so I think we can do all right.
VB

Well done!  

Hope you guys manage a) to keep your best players and b) make it to the group stages of the EC.
Guest

well done guys, fully deserved!
Myles

Well done Udinese.
fantas1sta

Tuttosport is claiming that Asamoah and Isla are going to move to Juve, with the details finalized tomorrow. Noooooooooo.  Go sign Cristian Zapata or something.
Guest

Pinzi

Does anybody know the status of Pinzi's contract. he is a vital veteran to Udinese and his contract is supposed to run out at the end of this season
Guest

Congratulations to Udinese which is going to be the second club to own a stadium in Italy while other clubs are too busy protecting other interests as they where in the 18th century. Maybe they are waiting for the taxpayer to pay for their stadia...as a matter of fact, at the moment, a specific law related to the construction of new stadia is being discussed in the Italian parliament...

31m Euros for 99 years and a plan to make a Football-only stadium.

LINK.
Liam

Udinese have long been a well run club which operates within its means.  Perhaps with their own stadium they can start to be more ambitious on the pitch.
Guest

Liam wrote:
Udinese have long been a well run club which operates within its means.  Perhaps with their own stadium they can start to be more ambitious on the pitch.


That would be a good thing, I remember when they had Zico playing for them...good aul days...
fantas1sta

atomoh wrote:
Congratulations to Udinese which is going to be the second club to own a stadium in Italy while other clubs are too busy protecting other interests as they where in the 18th century. Maybe they are waiting for the taxpayer to pay for their stadia...as a matter of fact, at the moment, a specific law related to the construction of new stadia is being discussed in the Italian parliament...

31m Euros for 99 years and a plan to make a Football-only stadium.

LINK.
I'm not sure that they actually own it, they secured a 99-year lease from the city council of Udine.  Not sure exactly what that means in this case.  Anyway, certainly great news, the Friuli is a nice-looking stadium but nonetheless quite dated.  Hopefully this helps attract more fans back to the stadium, attendance has been a major problem in recent years.
fantas1sta

So since it seems about half the squad is out on loan Udinese themselves are left with an extremely thin team.  I really wish the Pozzo family hadn't bought Watford and Granada, I understand the long-term strategy is to give players as much first-team experience as possible, but it doesn't help too much when they send so many of the most promising players away and leave Udinese with next to nothing.  Look at the starting lineup for this evening's match in Firenze:

Fiorentina:1 Viviano; 4 Roncaglia, 2 Gonzalo Rodriguez, 15 Nastasic; 16 Cassani, 20 Borja Valero, 7 Pizarro, 92 Romulo, 23 Pasqual; 8 Jovetic, 22 Ljajic

Udinese:1 Brkic; 75 Heurtaux, 5 Danilo, 16 Coda; 6 Faraoni, 18 Battocchio, 88 Willians, 7 Badu, 26 Pasquale; 77 Maicosuel; 24 Muriel

Di Natale, Armero, Basta, Domizzi, Benatia, Fabbrini and Pinzi are all being rested for the CL.  On paper, Fiorentina can't lose this.  I'm glad, of course, that Guidolin is taking the CL seriously, but now we're left with precious little for the Serie A campaign.  On paper a mid-table finish will be a good result, unless the miracle of last season is somehow repeated and other players have breakout seasons.  This is hardly the Udinese of a few years ago with Q-tube, Pepe, D'Agostino, Inler and Super Samir...

...But as I said I'm sick of all the BS speculation, let's just play calcio now!  
fantas1sta

RETE!!!        

Maicosuel, just signed from Botafogo in Brazil, Fiorentina 0-1 Udinese after a half hour, first goal of Serie A 2012-13.  Really liking the new Udinese shirts with red numbers, I'm gonna try to get one, it can be hard to get Udinese shirts though.
fantas1sta

Still 0-1 at 55', largely the same strategy as last season, soaking up pressure and hitting on the counter.  Muriel looks like he'll be a big star in a few years.  And Cuadrado, on loan from Udinese, comes on for Cassani for Fiorentina.

Lots of pressure now from Fiorentina, Brkic is making some very good saves.
fantas1sta

Aaaaand in the end 2-1 to Fiorentina, and they totally deserved it TBH, in the 2nd half we looked more like Siena or Bologna than Udinese, just sitting back doing nothing and just trying to kill off time when we did get the ball.  Jovetic as usual was the main protagonist for Fiorentina although El Hamdouai (?) looked good when he came on as well.  That can't happen again, and hopefully it won't when we have a full team at our disposal.  Cristian Battocchio looked like the worst player on the pitch, couldn't complete a pass and got caught in possession repeatedly.

We better beat Braga or I may die.
Liam

I only saw the last half hour, but Fiorentina were very dominant in that time and based on that deserved the win.  I think they'll have a good season with lots of potentially good signings and with Montella in charge.

I have to agree with you in some way on Udinese.  Perhaps too many players have left this summer.  Then again I thought Udinese would be mid table last year!
VB

VB wrote:
Well done!  

Hope you guys manage a) to keep your best players and b) make it to the group stages of the EC.
 oh well - yet another year without making it past the first hurdle. Looks like Serie A will only have one decent representative in this season's CL.
Liam

fantas1sta wrote:
RETE!!!        

Maicosuel, just signed from Botafogo in Brazil, Fiorentina 0-1 Udinese after a half hour, first goal of Serie A 2012-13.  Really liking the new Udinese shirts with red numbers, I'm gonna try to get one, it can be hard to get Udinese shirts though.

It's all fallen apart rather quickly for Maicosuel.
fantas1sta

We let too many players leave, and pre-season preparations were quite poor.  In a few weeks with both teams at even fitness levels it probably would have been an easy win for Udinese.  Now I'm going to just not try to think about the CL at all and just follow Serie A.
Tangerine Romanista

Don't forget the Europa League Fantas1sta!

Liverpool(ENG), Young Boys(SUI) & Anzhi(RUS)

Some tough games there.  
Lupo Pazzesco

I watched the match and tbh Braga were worthy winners over the two legs. It's a crying shame that Udinese didn't make it but the quality was there overall.
Domenic

Does anyone know with the renovations going on soon at the Friuli that Udinese will now own the stadium or will the city still own it?
VinciPerNoiMagicaBrescia

Domenic wrote:
Does anyone know with the renovations going on soon at the Friuli that Udinese will now own the stadium or will the city still own it?


the city still owns the stadium. by 2013-14 season, the south and north stand should have the much needed cover. the very fact that we still have stands in serie A with no rain protection at all is nothing short of utterly disgraceful.
VB

Why on earth isn't Pinzi playing for the Italian national rugby team?! He's fantastic!

Great game tonight too!

Just hang in there...
Liam

Good stuff from Udinese.

The 2 goals excluding the own goal were very good.
fantas1sta

OK, so I probably care less about the Europa League than anyone, but the fact is, the league needs the coefficient points, and so when I see my team beat Roma at the Olimpico and then lose at home to a Swiss team a short time later... it's not a great feeling.  Serie A teams need to start taking this competition seriously for the coefficient points.  No more resting half the team and having the team take it easy so as not to pick up injuries.  The Bundesliga moved ahead of us because of Tin Cup success, not CL success, if we want to take back 3rd place we have to prioritize both.

What's ironic, of course, is that Italy just vaulted up to 5th in the FIFA rankings.  At least the national team program is doing well again.
Liam

The 2 results against Young Boys make the effort put in to win at Liverpool seem a bit pointless.

I don't see Udinese competing for a Champions League place again this season, so Europa League qualification is the best they can hope for, so why not take the competition seriously when they're in it?
fantas1sta

Liam wrote:
The 2 results against Young Boys make the effort put in to win at Liverpool seem a bit pointless.

I don't see Udinese competing for a Champions League place again this season, so Europa League qualification is the best they can hope for, so why not take the competition seriously when they're in it?
Totally agreed.  Maybe it would be better if the likes of Cagliari and Atalanta qualified for the EL, they might be inclined to take it more seriously.
VinciPerNoiMagicaBrescia

due to bad road conditions in the north, only one Udinese fan attended the game on a Monday night against Doria. He went home happy  





Lupo Pazzesco

   

That's a couple of brilliant pictures showing him there all alone. I can't believe that would happen to a team in Serie A on the mainland Italy!
VinciPerNoiMagicaBrescia

Lupo Pazzesco wrote:
   

That's a couple of brilliant pictures showing him there all alone. I can't believe that would happen to a team in Serie A on the mainland Italy!


there were two critical factors to all expecting a low turnout. the roads between Genova and Udine are not the best due to the weather at this time of the year and also travelling in the dark makes it even worse. secondly, the game was played on a monday. the country is in tough economic times and people have to work. in fact the whole monday evening idea to play games is terrible. but this guy is famous now. Udinese are inviting him to a training session and there is talk he will be given an unofficial team number  

I just love the fact that at the beginning the joke was kind of on him and yet he went hom victorious  
Liam

I love that story about the lone Udinese fan.  I don't know whether that'd be a good experience or not though.
fantas1sta

Well I showed up late to this, you have to applaud that guy for his commitment, staying up there the whole match alone. Apparently he even made it into some of the English papers.
VinciPerNoiMagicaBrescia

fantas1sta wrote:
Well I showed up late to this, you have to applaud that guy for his commitment, staying up there the whole match alone. Apparently he even made it into some of the English papers.


the club offered him the opportunity to go and sit in the home stand, but he declined politely. Udinese are inviting him to a training session. he's become a bit of a celebrity
Curva Fiesole

Made the BBC Website
VinciPerNoiMagicaBrescia

I just finished watching the game.

I must say I was enjoying it until that little **** Garcia ruined it. What a lying cry baby. The 'foul' that got Heurtaux sent off....seriously what the f**k? Heutraux slid in for the ball, no malice and it was Garcia who kicked his studs. But that was ok. What pissed me off was that he then proceeded to cry like I have never heard before on a football pitch. Completely fooled the referee and me. I thought he must have a broken foot, leg or just dying. He then proceeds to go off for treatment, only to come back on a minute or so later.

then. When totally unchallenged for the ball or anything in the Udinese box, he walks away from the goal waving to the the bench to be treat. But instead of just walking off the pitch, he decided to sit down in the penalty area and waste even more time.

Brkic kept Udinese in the game with two or three brilliant saves, but after the Garcia cheating, I celebrated like an Udinese fan when their goal keeper gifted Di Natale the equaliser.  
Guest

Found this old thread. You may have seen my post on the main board. Any Udinese fans who I can talk to around here? Just finding my way with starting to follow the club from England.
Myles

fantas1sta frequents the forum so he might join you.

Your call has been posted on the twitter a/c as well.


fantas1sta

Udinese's old anthem is by Dario Zampa. MY LIFE IS COMPLETE!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzIroHntmok

ALE' UDIN, ALE' UDIN, ALE' ALE' ALEEEEEEEE'

So much better than that irritating 90s pop song we have now. Also, f**k the Europa League... sigh. Embarrassing.
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