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blackandblue

And now for something completely different (sportswise)

Loved this exchange on the BBC Sport website forum after this morning's fight.


Some yank: "Karma is a bitch as we say in the US. The English show no class by booing the national anthems of other nations and they get knocked of Euro 2008. The Americans are polite during God Save The Queen. The English boo the American anthem and Hatton gets knocked out. Go figure."

Reply: "Yeh, that's definitely the reason Hatton lost. It was embarrassing that those people booed your anthem, but unfortunately this seems to have become the English way at international sporting events. On the other hand, your country's government has endorsed the kidnap ("extraordinary rendition") and torture ("enhanced interrogation techniques") of suspected criminals in an illegal prison ("Guantanamo Bay"). If karma is such a "bitch" as you believe, then I think you've got bigger things to be worrying about than a few drunken Mancs booing your precious anthem. Take it on the chin..."


Priceless retort . I set my alarm to listen to it at 4am. Wish Hatton could have lasted the whole fight but, refereeing aside, he did get his ass kicked. Too light for the weight, no plan B. And Hamilton Sports Personality of the Year.
Duncan!

And the reply has to do with sports how???

Anyways, Mayweather was always gonna b!tch slap Hatton in this bout.  Mayweather is just too damn good right now.  Anybody would have gotten the same beating.

He is the best pound for pound right now by far.

Hatton shouldn't feel too down about the performance.


Forza Dallas Cowboys!!!
blackandblue

Er, because it was about events surrounding a boxing match. And the last I heard boxing was a sport. Don't get pedantic about it, dude.

How is America's team playing these days, by the way? Is Debbie still 'doing' them ?
Guest

Look at how big my internet penis is guys
blackandblue

You call that big.....?
Guest

There was no need to boo the national anthem though was there?!

Mayweather's entrance music was kinda of funny 'I was born in the USA', sort of reminded me of Appollo creed before the Ivan Drago fight
Duncan!

Cowboys flying high at 12-1 with 3 games left in regular season!
Guest

Re: And now for something completely different (sportswise)

blackandblue wrote:
Loved this exchange on the BBC Sport website forum after this morning's fight.


Some yank: "Karma is a bitch as we say in the US. The English show no class by booing the national anthems of other nations and they get knocked of Euro 2008. The Americans are polite during God Save The Queen. The English boo the American anthem and Hatton gets knocked out. Go figure."

Reply: "Yeh, that's definitely the reason Hatton lost. It was embarrassing that those people booed your anthem, but unfortunately this seems to have become the English way at international sporting events. On the other hand, your country's government has endorsed the kidnap ("extraordinary rendition") and torture ("enhanced interrogation techniques") of suspected criminals in an illegal prison ("Guantanamo Bay"). If karma is such a "bitch" as you believe, then I think you've got bigger things to be worrying about than a few drunken Mancs booing your precious anthem. Take it on the chin..."


Priceless retort . I set my alarm to listen to it at 4am. Wish Hatton could have lasted the whole fight but, refereeing aside, he did get his ass kicked. Too light for the weight, no plan B. And Hamilton Sports Personality of the Year.


Sorry, but there is nothing big and clever about this retort.

The typical British way is modelled on Scouse blamelessness - "we done nuffin wrong", or "the policing was way over the top", or "they started it". I welcome the day when Ingerlund fans accept accountability and responsibility for their actions, and be collectively bold enough to admit defeat.

What happened at the MGM was a complete and utter disgrace. To do it on American soil does not only bring the rest of us into disrepute but makes us look like the bigoted arse-end of the world.

I suspect the Hatton entourage was infiltrated by the moronic element of football followers in this country with their mundane chanting to the same old boring tunes, meaningless tattooes and designer clothing. This was their consolation for not being able to ransack the towns and cities of Switzerland and Austria next summer. I admire the local population for their sustained tolerance of slurs like "who are yer", and the vitriol being spouted in the direction of Mayweather at the pre-bout press conference.

I am pleased that Britain leads the way in harmonising race relations and its tolerance of people of ethnic backgrounds - from top to bottom society bangs the drum about the slightest form of abuse and discrimination. But I believe that disrespecting national anthems of other countries is just as bad. How would society react to the booing of a black person?

All in all, what happened on Saturday is indicative of the pig-ignorant dipso-fatso-ASBO country we have become; a decadent place with no moral or ethical standards, with callous disregard for others (including apathy for our returning servicemen), and a nation which spawns selfish materialism.

The comparison with Guantanamo Bay is as irrelevant as it is futile. It is also deeply inaccurate, but that's another story. If we're about to tie yob behaviour to foreign policy then we may as well go back to World War II when the common consensus was anything other than to espouse trendy anti-American bollocks.
Duncan!

Speak it brother Bracey!
blackandblue

All good (and valid)points, Bracey, no doubt. If you looked at the original return quote I doubt the author would disagree with you either. However, the 'karma' part did make me smile. There are more serious things to worry about in the world.

And congratulations to the Cowboys for doing quite well, Duncan. Never a fan myself, more of a Chicago Bears fan, having lived for a very short time in the Windy City back in the eighties. And liking it even in winter!
Dave

To be fair to the author of the retort, what he/she wrote was rather more elegant than 'Karma? B*ll*cks', which was clearly the gist of what the response was attempting to convey.

I don't think anyone other than the mindless halfwits who actually boo national anthems would disagree with the sentiment (which the author doesn't); the author was having a go at the NelsonMuntz-esque Ha Ha! tone of the posting about karma, suggesting that there are slightly more serious issues to worry about than a group of people whose collective IQ probably doesn't stretch much into three figures booing the national anthem.
Liam

I agree Bracey.  It makes me laugh when people in this country (rightly) criticise the racist behaviour towards black players of Italian/Spanish/Eastern European fans, when those same people are always being disrespectful about other countries themselves.
Guest

I think the Americans probably would have booed ours if the place wasn't full of Rich Americans but still there was no need to boo on their turf
Guest

Dave wrote:
To be fair to the author of the retort, what he/she wrote was rather more elegant than 'Karma? B*ll*cks', which was clearly the gist of what the response was attempting to convey.

I don't think anyone other than the mindless halfwits who actually boo national anthems would disagree with the sentiment (which the author doesn't); the author was having a go at the NelsonMuntz-esque Ha Ha! tone of the posting about karma, suggesting that there are slightly more serious issues to worry about than a group of people whose collective IQ probably doesn't stretch much into three figures booing the national anthem.


Karma: 'a belief system that is similar to the saying "what goes around, comes around". Karma can be either good or bad. What you do in this life will determine whether you are rewarded or punished in the next life'.

Perhaps the author/respondent used abstract terminology. Either that or I'm just thick (probably both). I just don't see what this definition has to do with In-ger-lund fans and how it ties in to Guantanamo Bay. I'll sleep on it.
Guest

N.B.

I do see the point of the posts of both Dave and bnb. Indeed, there are worse things in life. It was, however, an unmissable opportunity to have a long overdue rant at British underclass culture. True, the booing did not hurt anyone. But, it was simply a form of disrespect - a large problem we now face on this island which manifests itself in many ways (most notably mindless 'Chav' violence).
Dave

I think that the respondant was merely trying to point out that the Karma author may have over-spiritualised the reason Hatton lost - namely he wasn't quite good enough, before suggesting that those dwelling in glass houses ought to avoid chucking mildly self-righteous bricks about the place. Inguhland! halfwits booing national anthems probably scores a little lower on the potential karma scale in comparison to Gitmo/Iraq, etc, etc. I may be giving too much credit to a lentil-eating Guardianista, though... (no offence to the majority of Grauniad readers intended)

I agree with you about the respect bit, though. Having a 'Respect Agenda' isn't going to solve the problem...
Duncan!

BNB--  living roughly 30 miles from Chi-town myself, everyone in my family support the Bears.  I don;t mind them, but I have always been a Cowboy fan first
Guest

Those boorish, booze-swilling, booing Brits made two mistakes:

1. Obviously booing the American national anthem in America.
2. Assuming the Americans would understand the true nature of the booing - chiefly sporting in nature - as opposed to geuinely anti-American in and of itself.

British fans think nothing of booing the opposing the national anthem and they probably shouldn't, but really the motivation for doing so is sporting rivalry first and foremost and genuine spite second (if at all) and I recommend people don't get too worked up over it.
Guest

Just been to the gym at Warwick Uni, and noticed loads of posh students playing a weird game on the 5-a-side court. Anyone know what it is? It's a cross between frisbee and American Football, with 2 teams of 5 geeks each, throwing the frisbee to each other and trying to get a touchdown.
Mezz

They might be geeks for being at Uni and playing a wanky game, but what does that make someone who goes along to watch them?

Dave

It's probably 'Ultimate Frisbee' you saw. There was, IIRC, an inter-college tournament when I was a student. Never quite saw the point, myself.
Duncan!

Ultimate Frisbee for sure.

I know a few dudes who play it.   Nerds that don;t like real sports
Guest

Curva fiesole and other rugby fans

Which is considered the best league the french top14 or the guiness premership?

how close do you think the heineken cup is to the super14?  

Im glad that Argentina will be in the tri nations tournament soonish, it will make the tournament more interesting.  ive not followed rugby as closely as i used to but ill try and catch all the heineken cup this year.
Guest

Re: Curva fiesole and other rugby fans

Mexico86 wrote:
Which is considered the best league the french top14 or the guiness premership?

how close do you think the heineken cup is to the super14?  

Im glad that Argentina will be in the tri nations tournament soonish, it will make the tournament more interesting.  ive not followed rugby as closely as i used to but ill try and catch all the heineken cup this year.


BTW curva fiesole that question was for you and any other rugby fans on this board.
Duncan!

Big game for the Cowboys this Sunday night against the Giants.
Guest

The true pound for pound king. Money mayweather starts his path to stomping on pacqiao tonight against marquez.
Guest

Austrialian Football League Grand Final next Saturday. Geelong v St Kilda. Should be a pretty even contest and no shoulder pads or helmets  
zeds

gurjio wrote:
The true pound for pound king. Money mayweather starts his path to stomping on pacqiao tonight against marquez.


Nah, Manny's the man for me!
Guest

Pacman is awesome but floyds way too big. Even tho manny seems to be able to fight at any weight.
Curva Fiesole

Re: Curva fiesole and other rugby fans

Mexico86 wrote:
Which is considered the best league the french top14 or the guiness premership?

how close do you think the heineken cup is to the super14?  

Im glad that Argentina will be in the tri nations tournament soonish, it will make the tournament more interesting.  ive not followed rugby as closely as i used to but ill try and catch all the heineken cup this year.


Difficult to compare Top14 with the Guinness Premiership, as the French clubds have no salary caps and can recruit the top players - having said that, the Guinness is more competitive, especially this season where, IMO, any of around 8 teams could win the title.  In France, it does tend to be limited to 3-4 clubs. I enjoy waching French rugby as it is a lot more open than the English game, but there is nothing quite like a good old English game under lights on a cold, winters evening where the ball isn't seen for minutes upon end as forwards control the ball.

It is also hard ro compate Super14 and the Heineken Cup, as the teams in the Super14 are drawn from the best of a number of local teams, almost like mini-international squads, whereas the teams in the Heineken Cup are, naturally, only drawn from the clubs.  For entertainment, I think the Heineken Cup is the better competiton for the supporters as it is their team playing, rather than an amalgamation of 2-3 teams, but I'm probably being biased here.  Imagine an English team in the Heineken Cup made up of the best from Wasps, Irish, Saracens and Harlequins - would supporters of those clubs really take to a London based team?

Enjoy watching the Heineken Cup this year, don't bother with Gloucester cos we're shite at the moment!!
zeds

gurjio wrote:
Pacman is awesome but floyds way too big. Even tho manny seems to be able to fight at any weight.


Mayweather is bigger and possibly quicker but for me Manny is the more skillful boxer. Would be very close though.
Guest

Anyone here play or watch golf? The Fed Ex Cup finishes this week, could be an interesting few days if Mr Woods starts slowly. May put a couple of quid on Kevin Na as an outsider.
Guest

Re: Curva fiesole and other rugby fans

Curva Fiesole wrote:
Mexico86 wrote:
Which is considered the best league the french top14 or the guiness premership?

how close do you think the heineken cup is to the super14?  

Im glad that Argentina will be in the tri nations tournament soonish, it will make the tournament more interesting.  ive not followed rugby as closely as i used to but ill try and catch all the heineken cup this year.


Difficult to compare Top14 with the Guinness Premiership, as the French clubds have no salary caps and can recruit the top players - having said that, the Guinness is more competitive, especially this season where, IMO, any of around 8 teams could win the title.  In France, it does tend to be limited to 3-4 clubs. I enjoy waching French rugby as it is a lot more open than the English game, but there is nothing quite like a good old English game under lights on a cold, winters evening where the ball isn't seen for minutes upon end as forwards control the ball.

It is also hard ro compate Super14 and the Heineken Cup, as the teams in the Super14 are drawn from the best of a number of local teams, almost like mini-international squads, whereas the teams in the Heineken Cup are, naturally, only drawn from the clubs.  For entertainment, I think the Heineken Cup is the better competiton for the supporters as it is their team playing, rather than an amalgamation of 2-3 teams, but I'm probably being biased here.  Imagine an English team in the Heineken Cup made up of the best from Wasps, Irish, Saracens and Harlequins - would supporters of those clubs really take to a London based team?

Enjoy watching the Heineken Cup this year, don't bother with Gloucester cos we're     e at the moment!!


Thankyou Fiesole, I bought Rugby World Saturday, I'm trying to do my homework   .  I will be catching all the HC this year and as much GP as I can too!

I did watch the 1st Lions test this summer and I have to say if the game had gone on 10 mins longer we would have won the game and possibly the series.  

Regards.
Mezz

Before confirming Lucas De Grassi to drive alongside Timo Glock in the new Virgin F1 team, Richard Branson was apparently looking at bringing in US Indycar driver Danica Patrick to partner Glock:



I would have wholeheartedly supported Sir Richard's decision.
Duncan!

   
Guest

Has anyone ever been to the French Open tennis? I fancy going pretty soon and was wondering if anyone knew how easy/cheap it is to get tickets? Merci!
Mezz

Haven't done the French Open, but I'm sure it would be a great trip.

Getting tickets for the early rounds should be easy enough, but tennis tickets are notoriously expensive. Probably looking at around €100 for a first week ticket not on the main court.
Guest

Just watched the highlights of the Australian Open Final. Murray's first serve was awful throughout. Really felt for him at the end though.
Myles

Holy crap, Italy just beat France in the 6-nations!
Guest

Myles wrote:
Holy crap, Italy just beat France in the 6-nations!


Myles this makes me unbelievably happy. I was close to climbing the walls towards the end of the match!   Fratelli D'Italia.....

Wish I had recorded it now!
Curva Fiesole

Had to dig deep to find this thread!!

Cudos to all the Brits at the Tour de France.  5 stage wins so far, Brad in Yellow, Brits 1 & 2 overall and a British team controlling the race from start to finish.

Just needs Cav to win in Paris and then in London the week after.

Good times
Dels

I'm really surprised Wiggins will be the first Brit to have won it. I thought we were the Kings of  the cycling world.
Lupo Pazzesco

Kings of cycling?!?! On the track over the last ten years, maybe, but in the Grand Tours British riders haven't won jack. I never thought I'd see a British winner of the TDF in my lifetime when I saw Robert Millar come fourth in the mid eighties on C4, how wrong I was!

Well done Bradley, Chris & all at Team Sky for an amazing achievement.      
Lupo Pazzesco

Listen to Wiggins' post stage interview from yesterday to hear a really humble man:

http://soundcloud.com/cycling-central/tour-de-france-stage-19
Dels

Yeah, thats what I thought, we tend to be good at those kind of sports.

Hoping for a good day at the golf, I've gotten into golf much more recently.
Mezz

I can't tell you how impressed (delighted) I am with Fernando Alonso right now.

Ferrari are probably about the fourth fastest team in mean terms this season, but he's dragging the car around each and every track and picking up point after point along the way.

In my humble opinion, he's the most naturally gifted driver out there and has been for years - I think it could be Scudetto time at Maranello again this year...

Grande Fernando!
Duncan!

4 bogeys?    choke  cough cough
Curva Fiesole

Duncan, what is the current opinion on Lance Armstromg in the States at the moment? As one who has idolised him I would be devostated if the current charges against him hold.
Duncan!

It;s kind of like he hasn't been proven guilty of anything, so in one sense it's seems like a witchhunt.    BUT, people also wouldn't be terribly surprised either if he did it.    Cynisim I suppose
verno

Duncan! wrote:
4 bogeys?    choke  cough cough


Don't eat them then.


Sorry

Coat.
Lupo Pazzesco

 No need for a coat that made me laugh.
Duncan!

hardy har har
verno

How many of you are going to watch the Opening Ceremony ? How many of you wish the Olympics would bugger off ?
Liam

I'm not fussed about the Olympics myself.  I'd rather they were held somewhere else so we don't have to foot the bill.

They've also turned Loughborough town centre into a mini Olympic park with a giant screen and lots of out of control children.
Dave

The difference between this and other Friday nights being the presence of the screen?  
Dels

I love the olympics!

Bah humbug to those that don't.

Wasn't that keen on the opening ceremony at times. Being British I got what it was all about but if you're not a Brit you might be a wee bit confused.

Tennis is on just now, I'm so sick of Roger Federer, I wish he'd just go away. Yes, I know he's the greatest, but i would not get tired of punching him. *misses Nadal*
Dels

It would appear that alot of right wing nutters thought that the ceremony was "leftist nonsense, crap", if thats the case then it might be my favourite ever, anything that would piss off a tory...
Duncan!

I watched a little bit.   Seemed like a bunch of globalist nonsense.
Dave

Dels wrote:
It would appear that alot of right wing nutters thought that the ceremony was "leftist nonsense, crap", if thats the case then it might be my favourite ever, anything that would piss off a tory...


Boris Johnson thought it was wonderful, as did David Cameron, so it doesn't quite achieve that.

The chap who tweeted about it being leftist nonsense is the Tory MP who was fired as a parliamentary aide for attending a stag night at which various mates dressed up as members of the Waffen SS - he issued an apology for their behaviour, claiming he knew nothing about it, before it emerged that he might have had a teensy idea, since he'd hired the costumes... ('on reflection, one might have be better advised to have admitted that one asked the fancy dress shop for a couple of Oberstgruppenfurher's outfits, as one does', he might as well have said to complete his humiliation).

He's a shiny faced, publicity hungry numpty whose sole career aspiration was to be a politician as quickly as possible, and who is abjectly sh1te at his chosen career. Which, on the form of the last three decades, probably means that he'll end up as a senior government minister at some point. God help us.
Dels

Dave wrote:

Boris Johnson thought it was wonderful, as did David Cameron, so it doesn't quite achieve that.


Nor does having your un-elected head of state involved. Mind you Cameron would say anything to grab on to the tiny percentage of popuarity he has left.

That would be the guy whose tweets have stirred things up. He is, of course, entitled to his opinion but it still made me go like this .
Yockomo

I thought the opening ceremony was fantastic!
verno

I thought it was pretty good overall. The bit with the beds/kids/Voldemort went on a bit too long though. The cauldron was inspired. Brilliant idea.
Dels

Dare I say it but I've caught Wiggo-mania! He seems like such a nice guy, no airs and graces. My work is paying out on him winning the sports personality of the year already.

I've been loving the swimming so far (and that not just because Ian Thorpe's been on my tv   ) I had a tear in my eye when Michael Phelps won his 19th medal the other night there, I thought "god help me, if Britain should ever get an an athlete like him" Imagine the tears.
verno

I was amused to see that some wag in an Aussie paper had listed South Korea as Nice Korea and North Korea as Naughty Korea.
Mezz

Dels wrote:
(and that not just because Ian Thorpe's been on my tv   )


Just out of curiosity, is Ian Thorpe... um... you know... erm... <cough>... one of those 'fruity' sort of chaps I've been hearing so much about?

Dave

He's denied any interest in fruits for the last 10 years.

Apparently, the fact that he's polite, doesn't say 'strewth' and has correctly identified the fact that Fosters is nothing more than cat piss run through a sodastream before being canned means that he is not a bonzer bloke and must, therefore, be smuggling his budgie for the other side.

He keeps on denying it, though, and the press keep on printing photos of him on holiday with 'close friends', none of whom are female, which leads to him denying it, which leads to...

He'll just have to prove he's straight by jumping Claire Balding during the last session of the swimming. What could possibly go wrong?
Dels

I don't care what kind of fruit he likes I've been a fan since Sydney 2000 and that won't change. That makes me feel old I tells ya. It is a shame in this day in age that he's feels he can't come out though.

Jess Ennis has started really well hope she can keep it up.
Guest

...okay but what is really the purpose and history of speedwalking??? I've read the wikipedia page of course, but am still in the dark...
blackandblue

I thought he 20km WALK medal ceremony was due to take place at the stadium last night. What happened, did they think 80,000 people would take the p#ss out of a bunch of guys walking as if they needed the toilet ? Urgently.
Dels

I've always wondered why that was considered a sport. Also, at what points in a persons life do they say "I want to be a speed walker"? They must have failed at long distance running or summat.
Dels

Amongst all this Olympic malarkey (which I love) my favourite golfer won his second major Go Rory!.      

By the way Edison Arantes do Nascimento looks bloody brilliant for his age. Seriously, I want to know his secret.
Duncan!

USA basketball winning gold! sweeet
Dels

Surely, that's the most predictable gold of all?
Duncan!

Spain gave them a good game, but yes, the USA was the big favorites
fantas1sta

Dels wrote:
Surely, that's the most predictable gold of all?
Not necessarily, they managed to blow it in 2004...
Dels

They also blew it in 1988 and 1972 when they lost to the Soviet Union no less. Would loved to have seen that.
Dels

Duncan! wrote:
Spain gave them a good game


Of course Spain would give them a good game. Is there anything those bloody geniuses can't do? Imagine if Ineista and Xavi were over 5ft they could do any sport.
Duncan!

yeah, but it took Americans to put them in their place!    
Dels

Meh! If Lebron and Kobe were, like 4 ft, Ineista and Xavi would own them. You know it.  
Duncan!

never
Dels

As a McLaren fan I do alot of defending of Lewis Hamilton but not this time if he was to go to Mercedes let him go thats what I say, watching him congratulating Button on Sunday you could tell it was all fake, he's an ungrateful little arrogant so snd so. Button has done nothing wrong.  Hamilton should take a look at Alex Zanardi's achievement yesterday and see what that man has been through in the name of motor racing before acting like a spoilt brat. I used to demonise Alonso thinking the shenanigans at McLaren when he was there was entirely his fault but now i'm having my doubts. Ron Dennis needs to get rid and try to get Vettel's signature for next season, he might be looking for a new challenge after winning the title for a third year in a row.

On a lighter note I think this is going to be Andy Murray's year!
Mezz

Dels wrote:
On a lighter note I think this is going to be Andy Murray's year!


Ssssshhh! Don't say it out loud, you'll jinx it!
verno

Don't say it out loud that she shouldn't say it out loud !
Dels

Not saying it out loud.

I'm typing it out loud.
fantas1sta

On the topic of F1, I can't believe I woke up that early just to see Alonso's race end on the first corner... blahrgh.
Guest

fantas1sta wrote:
On the topic of F1, I can't believe I woke up that early just to see Alonso's race end on the first corner... blahrgh.


Same (the European races are on at 5am here), was so disappointed! Hopefully this weekend is better. I'm a big F1/Ferrari fan.
Dels

Well Grosjean has been banned for his sins.

Of course had he not taken out Ferrari's number one driver he would be racing. Love F1's blatant favouritism towards Ferrari.
Liam

To be fair, hasn't Grosjean been involved in a few on track collisions this season, and his move at the weekend was stupid and dangerous.

I'm not a Ferrari fan btw.
Dels

Oh there's no doubt that he's rough around the edges. Having to sit out a race might make him buck up his ideas. It was a nasty collision, was glad to see everyone was ok afterwards.
Guest

I'm all for stricter punishments on dangerous driving, especially for those who seem to make a career out of it, but they should be more consistent with handing them out. Maldonado deserves a ban as well for everything he's pulled this season, it's clear that grid penalties and fines alone aren't teaching him a lesson.
VinciPerNoiMagicaBrescia

Valtiel wrote:
I'm all for stricter punishments on dangerous driving, especially for those who seem to make a career out of it, but they should be more consistent with handing them out. Maldonado deserves a ban as well for everything he's pulled this season, it's clear that grid penalties and fines alone aren't teaching him a lesson.


In that case, Hamilton should be given a life time ban for reckless driving and generally being rubbish
fantas1sta

lombardese12 wrote:
Valtiel wrote:
I'm all for stricter punishments on dangerous driving, especially for those who seem to make a career out of it, but they should be more consistent with handing them out. Maldonado deserves a ban as well for everything he's pulled this season, it's clear that grid penalties and fines alone aren't teaching him a lesson.


In that case, Hamilton should be given a life time ban for reckless driving and generally being rubbish
And here we go...    I was born into Ferrari fanhood, my nonno told me that between some time in the late 70s and, well, a year or so before he died he never missed a single F1 race.  And that being said, Monza qualifying ended really crappily. Technical problems for Alonso leaving him in 10th after being in the top 3 all weekend.  At least Massa finally got himself high enough up the grid to help out, I hope he can hold up some cars behind him to give Fernando a chance to climb up.

lombardese, do you actually live in/near Brescia?
VinciPerNoiMagicaBrescia

fantas1sta wrote:
lombardese12 wrote:
Valtiel wrote:
I'm all for stricter punishments on dangerous driving, especially for those who seem to make a career out of it, but they should be more consistent with handing them out. Maldonado deserves a ban as well for everything he's pulled this season, it's clear that grid penalties and fines alone aren't teaching him a lesson.


In that case, Hamilton should be given a life time ban for reckless driving and generally being rubbish
And here we go...    I was born into Ferrari fanhood, my nonno told me that between some time in the late 70s and, well, a year or so before he died he never missed a single F1 race.  And that being said, Monza qualifying ended really crappily. Technical problems for Alonso leaving him in 10th after being in the top 3 all weekend.  At least Massa finally got himself high enough up the grid to help out, I hope he can hold up some cars behind him to give Fernando a chance to climb up.

lombardese, do you actually live in/near Brescia?


mechanical problems paid to Alonso's chances in the qualifying. button and hamilton look pretty good for tomorrow, but we are in monza. anything can happen.

I live in san donato Milanese and also have a place in london. I have a business in the UK, so tend to spend about one week a month in the UK.
Lupo Pazzesco

It looks like Cavendish is off from Team Sky after just one season! It was never going to work unfortunately with him not being the star man and the squad built for the mountains. I wonder where he'll go?
VinciPerNoiMagicaBrescia

Lupo Pazzesco wrote:
It looks like Cavendish is off from Team Sky after just one season! It was never going to work unfortunately with him not being the star man and the squad built for the mountains. I wonder where he'll go?


the yellow will always bring in the most sponsorship money so definitely can't blame sky. but surely froome will be off as well. He was the real winner of the tour ultimately.
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Anyone like table tennis?
VinciPerNoiMagicaBrescia

Tuten K wrote:
Anyone like table tennis?


haha. I played a lot when I was at school. these days more tennis than table tennis. It is definitely proving more difficult finding a reliable partner to play with.
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Hate the damn international break, jus when i was getting excited for the beginning of the season they had to put in international games, i know its world cup qualifiers but dammmmmnnnnnnn.
VinciPerNoiMagicaBrescia

calciofanatic wrote:
Hate the damn international break, jus when i was getting excited for the beginning of the season they had to put in international games, i know its world cup qualifiers but dammmmmnnnnnnn.


Milan needed it. with so many late summer signings and 2-3 week injuries to boateng. mortolivo and pato, they needed this break to allow for key players to recuperate and also to integrate the new ones into the team.
Dels

Well..he's hoping the true number one female tennis player destroys the screamer.
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