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Need help picking a Serie A team to support!

OK, I need some expert help.

I've been a fringe soccer fan for just about 20 years now, getting pumped up for big events like World Cups and Euros etc... My grandfather was from Italy and taught me about it and I played in high school.

I love the FIFA video games and visited Italy this past spring and want to REALLY get into a team this season.  

But I need some help. I don't want to pick the wrong one. I have some contenders and some key things that I'm looking for but this is where experts like you guys come in.

I know I don't want to be a Milan or Inter fan.  I like Italian players and Inter doesn't feature any.

My grandfather liked Juventus - and I'm a huge Buffon fan - so I've always leaned to them, but I'm not the biggest fan of how their fans are always under fire for blatant racism. Not cool. SO I'm not locked into them.

I want to consider Napoli as well. My family was from around there originally and I like their colors.

Other possibilities are Fiorentina (visited there this spring and LOVED it) and Roma (friend at work likes them).

I just know I want a top-10 team, but not either of the Milans... I think having fervent fan base with an up-and-coming ownership who isn't afraid to pay their own young stars to stay in town are must-haves.

Besides Buffon, the other types of players that I'm a fan of are hard-working, clean-cut guys who don't get into trouble... Kind of like Chiellini, Quags, Gattuso and Pirlo. I also enjoyed Rossi at Confed Cup last year.

I used to like Cannavaro before he acted like he didn't even want to be at the '10 World Cup and took some cash to leave Juventus TWICE. Don't like those things.

So what teams fit these criteria?  THANKS!!
Lupo Pazzesco

As your family is from there, Napoli should be your team.  
Guest

Agreed.  I grew up liking Juve as a kid because they were big etc - typical kid.  However when I was older I decided to support Napoli because my family is from Campania.

I say Napoli
VB

I say Napoli  

And pray they keep hold of their stars...
Guest

Interesting... good scoops... I did some more reading about Napoli last night and I liked what I read... Big stadium with die hard fans... New ownership has them on the right track... a couple names on the roster that dabble for Nazionale...

I'm 99% IN for Napoli... Could any of you guys give me some "inside scoops" on some of the players?  Obviously Quagliarella was basically the only player who could come back to Italy with his head held high after South Africa... And I see that Cannavaro's younger brother plays D for them as well.  What are they like, personality-wise?
Guest

Whoever you decide on, do me a favour (not a favor) and don't call your squad a roster, or refer to your defenders as 'playing D'.

Thanks
Guest

Micky wrote:
Whoever you decide on, do me a favour (not a favor) and don't call your squad a roster, or refer to your defenders as 'playing D'.


Interesting... Roster isn't a European word?  I can see the phrase "playing D" be frowned upon, but roster, really?  Good to know.

Not jersey but kit.
Not field but pitch.
Not roster but squad.

Anything else obvious?
Myles

Jersey and Field are alright, but roster...never even heard that before.
Not soccer but football, is another one.

Btw, Juve are no more or no less racist than any other club in Italy, most clubs have a small element of it, but it doesn't mean all supporters of Serie A clubs are racist.

Was your grandfather racist?
Guest

Myles wrote:
Was your grandfather racist?


Ouch, babe... I know what you're saying though... That it's kind of everywhere just like I'm sure that there are "ignorant yahoos" on both sides of the New York Yankees/Boston Red Sox rivalry for baseball here in the states.

I just don't want to jump head first into a club and find out that they are widely regarded as one of the main culprits of the ugly side of football like many articles hint at with Juventus if one googles "racist Italian soccer teams".

But back to the POSITIVES for Napoli... what are some of the personalities and back stories of their current squad?
Guest

As long as you don't support Lazio, I don't think you should worry about the whole fascist situation.

I really don't think you are forced to support the club from where your family is from. None of the teams I root for have anything to do with my hometown and that doesn't mean the passion is any lesser.

Just watch a few teams play, and pick whichever you like the most.

BTW, if you are going to root for Napoli, just a bit of a warning, they won't win anything for a long, long time. :p
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Logan wrote:
if you are going to root for Napoli, just a bit of a warning, they won't win anything for a long, long time. :p


How come? They made the Europa League this year after a 6th place finish... They were 12th the year before... this after being in Serie C like a few years ago... They are on the way up!
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Geneseo98 wrote:

How come? They made the Europa League this year after a 6th place finish... They were 12th the year before... this after being in Serie C like a few years ago... They are on the way up!


It's remarkable, don't get me wrong, but in order to make the step up from a midtable team like Palermo, Sampdoria or Napoli, you need a lot of resources and prestige. The later in order to have the best players in the world want to join you, the former to actually be able to buy them.

Napoli doesn't have a name, and what Fiorentina, Napoli, Udinese spend is just a fraction of what Juve or Inter spend (which is why there's such a huge backlash when they don't perform).

While they have been smart by buying youngsters of quality, they don't have the resources to really make it in the long run. At best they can hope to be like Roma, maybe in a really good year they can challenge for the Scudetto but that won't be the constant, and forget about being a Champions League challenger, ever.
flotron

Logan wrote:
Geneseo98 wrote:

How come? They made the Europa League this year after a 6th place finish... They were 12th the year before... this after being in Serie C like a few years ago... They are on the way up!


It's remarkable, don't get me wrong, but in order to make the step up from a midtable team like Palermo, Sampdoria or Napoli, you need a lot of resources and prestige. The later in order to have the best players in the world want to join you, the former to actually be able to buy them.

Napoli doesn't have a name, and what Fiorentina, Napoli, Udinese spend is just a fraction of what Juve or Inter spend (which is why there's such a huge backlash when they don't perform).

While they have been smart by buying youngsters of quality, they don't have the resources to really make it in the long run. At best they can hope to be like Roma, maybe in a really good year they can challenge for the Scudetto but that won't be the constant, and forget about being a Champions League challenger, ever.


Don't worry too much about Logan, he is obsessed with "big names"
Guest

I know what you mean - European football isn't like American football with a salary cap which forces some semblence of competitive balance...

... but even with those things you talk about like money and prestige, Napoli is probably 4th or 5th-best in Lega Calcio. 3rd-biggest stadium which is almost always full = $$$... A new dedicated owner that has made the club profitable (while some of the big guns like Milan are hemmoraging money, correct?).

This seems to me to be a pivotal year for Napoli.  If it finishes in top 3 somehow and qualifies for Champions League with Juventus rebuilding, it could make a major run.
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Geneseo98 wrote:
I know what you mean - European football isn't like American football with a salary cap which forces some semblence of competitive balance...

... but even with those things you talk about like money and prestige, Napoli is probably 4th or 5th-best in Lega Calcio. 3rd-biggest stadium which is almost always full = $$$... A new dedicated owner that has made the club profitable (while some of the big guns like Milan are hemmoraging money, correct?).

This seems to me to be a pivotal year for Napoli.  If it finishes in top 3 somehow and qualifies for Champions League with Juventus rebuilding, it could make a major run.


Stadiums in Italy, unlike the Premier League, are usually not the property of the clubs, so you have to subtract the money used to rent it from the province.

Football is a weird sport, it struggles with being sustainable in the long run, with teams such as Manchester United and Liverpool owing enormous quantities of money. Being profitable per se doesn't bring you anything.

Being a name in football is important not because I like it, but most players grow up watching their heroes in Real Madrid, Barcelona, Manchester United, Juventus, etcetera and would love to realize their dream to play for them. Look at Manchester City, they are filthy rich, overpay for players, offer enormous wages, and players still resist going there because they have no history.

I would actually say that Napoli has a bit more of it thanks to Maradonna playing there but unfortunately, this is its best year in a while which combined with really strange years for teams like Juventus, Fiorentina, Udinese and Lazio. You shouldn't expect much better than that for a while, since I can guarantee you that most of those teams will perform better next season.

Finding players like Hamsik on the cheap is not easy and is not a solid foundation for a title challenger. Napoli is being smart by bringing young players with talent but unless they stumble upon 10 Hamsiks, they won't be able to mount a real title challenge.

Even in the case that they actually manage to reach the CL, that's usually toxic for small teams. Why? Simple, because of wages. Being in that tournament means that you have to increase the number of players in your team, players of high quality and that can get very expensive. If you don't have the revenue or the backing for something like this, then usually the team gets spread too thin and ends up underperforming in the league, like Fiorentina and Udinese have proven in the past.

Actually Fiorentina is a good team for you to look at, that's the future of Napoli. They came back from oblivion, have a serious project behind it, quality young players, and yet they can't make that jump for title contenders, while the times they have reached the CL left them very vulnerable in the regular league. The resources are simply not there, and take into account that Fiorentina's current project is a lot more mature and has been going for longer than Napoli's.

I'm not saying you shouldn't support Napoli, even Chievo has fans that love the team, but it's also good to have a perspective of their actual possibilities and know what's normal for them.
Guest

Well, it looks like Napoli is in the market for Clint Dempsey!

That would be the final sign... One of my favorite American players going to the team that is the leader in the clubhouse to be my favorite team?

NAPOLI is looking like a HEAVY favorite at this point.
Duncan!

Hey, I say roster, playing D, call it soccer, and have been doing it on this board for  years.   Probably because I am from Chicago area!

Support either Roma or Napoli.    

But La Nazionale is number 1!

We need a new roster of younger players on the squad, get back to playing traditional Italian D,  move forward to win more soccer games
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Geneseo98 wrote:
Well, it looks like Napoli is in the market for Clint Dempsey!

That would be the final sign... One of my favorite American players going to the team that is the leader in the clubhouse to be my favorite team?

NAPOLI is looking like a HEAVY favorite at this point.


I'm glad you found a team to support then.

Beware though, rumors in football are terrible, newspapers get away with publishing outright lies, so never count on a signing until it's done.
Ray

Duncan! wrote:
Hey, I say roster, playing D, call it soccer, and have been doing it on this board for  years.   Probably because I am from Chicago area!

Support either Roma or Napoli.    

But La Nazionale is number 1!

We need a new roster of younger players on the squad, get back to playing traditional Italian D,  move forward to win more soccer games


Guys keep the American lingo going. I think it's great!. Landon Donovan and the US team this year in the world cup were great. And the way they talk about football is great too. (or should I say awesome!) That's your culture, the same as an Italian fan talking about Fantasia, catenaccio etc. So embrace it.

The problem with fans like Micky is that they think England is the home of football  

It's coming home, it's coming home, football's coming home  

One other consideration for the team you are to support Geneseo98. I don't know what the coverage of Italian football is like in the US but in general Juve, Inter, Milan and Roma generally get more coverage than teams like Napoli. You want to be able to see your team play live (on tv).
Duncan!

Landon Donovan had an awesome World Cup.   But for me the best player in this WC for the USA was Michael Bradley!   I would like to see one of the Italian teams roll the dice and give him a chance.    

Maybe Napoli?   He can cover the D and get forward and join in the offence as well
Guest

Duncan! wrote:
He can cover the D


Grrrr
Duncan!

Guest

Hey guys,

I am in a similar boat in choosing a Serie A team.  My mother is from Olivella which is near Cassino, Italy.  Pretty much in between Rome and Naples.  So I would like to know which team people support that are from the Cassino, Italy area.

My father is from Cosenza and I know they root for Reggina, but they are in the Serie B and it wil be tough to keep up.  

Any help would be appreciated!
Mezz

By the looks of it, there aren't really any teams close to Cassino if you're looking for a Serie A club so if you're trying to do it geographically then you're basically looking at either Napoli or Roma.

All I would suggest is that you perhaps watch a few games when the season starts and see if there's a particular team from anywhere in the country that you enjoy watching.

That's how I got in to Fiorentina about 15 years ago, and I've stuck with them (despite initially being a 'fan' of Inter in the early 90's) because I loved the way that Fiorentina played their football. I still do.

My love for the club has grown over time, but personally, I don't think I could have picked a team without watching them play a few times and maintained my loyalty for this long.

Each to their own though.
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