Bobo32
|
Moulin RougeThis is apparently getting out of hand. The Gazetta dello Sport is obsessing, players are obsessing, owners are mad, and coaches are going off like fireworks.
What exactly is the problem with what Mourinho has said?
How has he disrespected anyone? I really dont get it.
Blab
|
delpiero
|
He needs a slap.......or two. The mans become a caricature of himself. If Inter crash out of the CL and Mad Max wields the axe, I sincerely hope he takes a few years away from the game
|
Bobo32
|
I dont get what he's said that's so bad. He's right on all his principle points.
1) The media targets Inter when they get points that they shouldnt more than they target any other side.
2) The media try to bring down Inter and big up other sides (Roma and Milan) despite the fact they will finish the season trophyless.
3) Inter have collected 3 points unfairly on one occasion this season, against Siena, and Mourinho admitted it straight after the match.
4) Mourinho appears less on media outlets than Spaletti and Ranieri. He doesnt like the media,.
It's a mystery how anyone can deny these things and how then they can criticise Mourinho for speaking the truth. Some people are f**king stupid.
|
Myles
|
Stop whinging, that's what happens when you win trophies. Though maybe i should take into account that Inter supporters are new to the whole winning business.
|
Liam
|
Bobo, I would sympathise with Inter if they weren't being so hypocritical.
For years we had to put up with Massimo Moratti and Inter's various unsuccessful coaches blaming Luciano Moggi for everything, refusing to admit they weren't good enough.
Now all of a sudden Inter are top of the league, and getting the same accusations, and they don't like it.
Mourinho quickly got boring in England, and he's got boring even more quickly in Italy. You really have to be pretty stupid if you believe everything he says, as Mourinho himself doesn't believe everything he says, he just does it for attention, and to influence referees.
|
Bobo32
|
Two wrongs? And Morratti is one man. Juve didnt have half a dozen coaches and top players on their case for not a lot. In a sense Morratti was vindicated anyway. But let's not go there.
I get it from the fans. I really do. That's fine. It's the idiotic responses from Maldini (Ive won 5 times more trophies!111111...congratulations, youve been playing five times longer donk!), Buffon, Totti, De Rossi, Spoiletti, Ranieri etc etc etc etc ad nauseum.
Yeh football is full of idiots.
Ive got a lot of respect for Ancelotti who hasnt got involved in this dispute and said "I dont tell the truth....Football is not ready for it". He;s right and I feel like Ancelotti and Mourinho have a lot of mutual respect.
Edit: disputes like this damage Italian football. It is a circus. If you can reproach the EPL for being too business like and full of bad money (maybe) then we can characterise Italy as being one big sad joke.
And this comes from someone who has always preferred Serie A to any other league.
|
Tuten K
|
I think Mou know's full well how much controversy he's going to cause when he comes out with stuff. Great addition to the Circus
|
verno
|
Everything in Italian football is a big fuss over nothing isn't it ?
I'm not sticking up for the guy because he is beyond tedious but I think the press have marked his card and thus everything he says will now be treated with hysteria.
|
nino
|
| Bobo32 wrote: | | I get it from the fans. I really do. That's fine. It's the idiotic responses from Maldini (Ive won 5 times more trophies!111111...congratulations, youve been playing five times longer donk!), |
If Mourinho can come out with silly comments on the regular (like Ranieri being 70, or whatever he said) I think others are welcome to make nonsensical digs too. I find them all amusing anyway.
|
Liam
|
Bobo, I agree, all this does damage Italian football and I am fed up with it.
There isn't and never has been a "system", but all the week's press is built around suggesting there is one.
Mourinho is just adding to it, although not the only one. I can be critical of referees, but the pressure they're put under in Italy is ridiculous. Not a day goes by when I don't read a comment from a coach/player/president about a referee.
They have to be mentally stronger, but the constant media talk is not helping.
|
Myles
|
Mourinho courts the whole press hysteria so it takes the limelight off his players in a good way (kind of), so that is his motive, so why are you complaining Bobo, it's what Mourinho wants. Even though it's ugly in one way, it worked for him at Chelsea so i assume it'll work for him at Inter. It doesn't present a good image for Italian Football but Mourinho doesn't give a shit, as far as his concerned it's not in his job spec to give a good image of Italian Football. It doesn't create a good image for Juve either with accusations if that's what he did in fact do, and obviously the Juve administration are pissed because they have been profusely trying to give off an image of being squeeky clean since calciopoli, but again it's why Mourinho is lapping it up, to destablise Juve, because even though we won't catch Inter we are the closest to them so he's just trying to completely eliminate the competition, and that is his job. So why complain when the media fall into Mourinho's trap.
|
Ferri
|
Depends what your after. If you like Football you watch it and don't pay too much attention to the press.
The football industry is exploited as much as any other, there's papers to sell, tv slots to fill and not everyone cares for results, highlights and analysis.
Talking conspiracies and personalties sells a lot, sometimes more.
Then you have the players personal lives to beat out a few coins over.
What about the kids market we can squeeze some coin out of the parents by selling shirts. Hello, Ronaldinho sales are down? ok, lets get DB in from that great football power league in AMERICA!!!
Personally I don't watch a lot of TV other than the matches themselves, nor do I read papers, it's full of crap. I scan the headlines and have a chuckle over it but unless I see the interview in full I don't think much of it. I've watched, played and coached football long enough to make my own opinions. Although I do appreciate inter.it making the full interviews available on their site (even though they don't translate as much as they used to). Youtube usually has them too and I see inter.it are now making them available through streams as well.
My current favourite media spin is the bagging Balotelli has copped from Roma, getting it from every direction, but has anyone mentioned Roma getting fined over the monkey chants he received? Slightly different coverage to what the Zoro incident got. Maybe Balotelli should have picked up the ball and gone home crying instead.
Question is why the difference in media coverage? Do they no longer care about racism in Italian football, or did they never care and the Zoro incident was just another attempt to sell to anti inter supporters?
|
Bobo32
|
Myles: I think Mourinho uses the media cleverly to defend his team but that's not the same as saying he enjoys using the media. He has said repeatedly that he dislikes them and only talks to the media because he has to contractually. If he has to, he might as well do it well. In fact most of his rant was to that effect,
| Quote: | | "If I talk to the press it's only because I have to do it, because there's a contract. I'm here with you because they tell me I have to do it, I talk to journalists because they tell me I have to do it by contract. Instead, Ranieri and Spalletti. They are prime time. They are always guests on the evening programmes. Every time I go in the changing room after the match and I turn on the TV, I always see Spalletti and Ranieri. Spalletti talks before the match, during the interval, after the match. He talks with one person, then with another, he's friends with everyone. And it's me who's good at talking? I'm good because they tell me I have to talk. If Inter's press office tells me not to talk to the press for two months, for me it would be fantastic. And I would be good, I would not talk to the press and maybe there's someone would pay for me to talk. I refuse who wants to pay me for an interview. Some offer me money to give an interview, but I'm not good. It's my job, they pay me to do this job, I have a contract with Inter and Inter have a contract with the media and as coach of this team, I have to do it. I have refused an interview with Sky so many times. The press office ask me every day to meet journalists from Sky, Corriere della Sera or Gazzetta dello Sport, and I always say no. I don't manipulate public opinion and I have never participated as a guest in an evening programme. I'm not the champion of prime time programmes, certainly not." |
Ferri...I didnt realise that there were monkey chants. That would explain why Balotelli went SSSSSHHHHHHH. It's strange that noone would say this and that respected people in the Italian game have criticised him for it. Weird.
I guess this is the intellectualy prostitution Mourinho is talking about.
|
Ferri
|
http://football.uk.reuters.com/seriea/news/L3599004.php
Not many would know.
I'm not sure when it happened, before or after the penalty I don't know. Regardless it amazes me that no one reports it in the media especially considering the hype about the Zoro incident.
Worse still try searching for the article on the net using two words Balotelli & racism, you'll get more hits about Mourinho being told to back off the kid from anti-racism groups than anything else.
Not sure which is worse: the media that write the crap or the millions that pay good money to read their crap which just encourages the media to keep produce more crap.
|
Mev
|
Some people can't help but live in the past. tsk!
|
Lupo Pazzesco
|
Jose's always been a wind up merchant and quite a funny one at that but I've never understood why the media and certain managers don't take what he says with a large pinch of salt.
|
Bobo32
|
First everyone says Italian football is a circus and the media is a joke.
Then Mourinho comes and says it.
No everybody says Mourinho talks too much and doesn't understand it.
Italian football is a joke. I feel like I'm married to Tara Palmer Tomkinson.
|
Bobo32
|
Although his comments about the Ancelotti were off...C.A. has remained silent and implied he agrees with Mourinho on a lot of points so that outburst was unprovoked....tut tut
|
blackandblue
|
| Bobo32 wrote: | Ferri...I didnt realise that there were monkey chants. That would explain why Balotelli went SSSSSHHHHHHH. It's strange that noone would say this and that respected people in the Italian game have criticised him for it. Weird.
I guess this is the intellectualy prostitution Mourinho is talking about. |
How about a chant of 'Balotelli mangia banane!'? That would piss me off big time .
|
Bobo32
|
To be fair bananas are yummy.
Romans = Potassium deficient. Maybe they could take a leaf out of his book..
|
blackandblue
|
I'm actually allergic to bananas. They make me projectile vomit
|