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| Drughi |
JusticeOk, I think we didnt talk about it...now new trial is started so I think Moratti is nervous as things will be different.After months and years of investigation there is no fixed matches or any evidence so now it will be back to civil court. Moggi tried to influence on refs like Meani and other people from various clubs but they didnt manage to do it. However it was used to stop Moggi and prevent Juve - Milan domination in calcio. It is important to say that Montezemolo ( FIAT director) banned Juve for going to civil court in which we would win trial and stop f**king league for year. But he just wanted to remove Moggi and to sacrifice club in order to invest more in Ferrari. But now Inter will be stripped of stolen titles and more, Moratti will be on the bech about falsifying documents, spying people, arranging bank accounts. Of course Milan and Juventus will lead it as it is time for rats to be back where they belong. In fact Elkans destroyed Moggi but now it looks like things will turn... So basically Mensa FC will try to avoid bigger penalty but first MORATTI AND TROVERA WILL RISK JAIL ( hope they will finish behind bars )...probably money will be paid to short senctence and also will try to prolong justice as long as possible. So whole 2008. will be at civil court but justice will be done at the end. 
So rats would prepare their holes as they will have to find place to hide... See you. |
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| gurjio |
drughi, i did briefly mention this on the salas thread but i agree, theres apparently a queue of people lining up tp testify against moratti and also the head of the phone company.
hopefully justice will be done. |
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| Bracey |
Re: Justice
When you say 'it was used to stop Moggi and prevent Juve - Milan domination in calcio', you mean the Calciopoli verdict? If the Elkanns destoyed Moggi initially, does this mean Moggi will come back into football? Will Moggi go after his enemies now it seems he may be cleaner? What will happen to Inter? Should they not be punished for architecting our demise? |
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| Drughi |
I mean whole thing was made to stop Moggi by taking over at Juve board. Inter just used fact that part of family decided to remove Moggi. So Moratti was just man that did dirty job of spying. Moggi tried to influence refs but he didnt have much success just as Meani from Milan...simply they were declared guilty just in deal by f**king Montezemolo and Moratti as his servant.
I think that calciopoli will be erased by taking our titles back from false champions and also Berlusconi wont miss thing to send Moratti and Provera to jail when he is back to power. Simply, Mensa board and owner are biggest cheaters in Italy and deserve prison... But Mensa FC is not behind Moggi crush, they are just slaves... It was Montezemolo and Lapo and other merda from family. In opposite last season Juve would stop Serie A, declared not guilty at civil court and goverment and lega calcio would pay us fortune. So probably Serie A would be shut till this season. It will be justice but still I just want our titles back, nothing else... And of course to see Moratti paying for being just dirty slave. I think Montezemolo will escape... |
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| Liam |
A few days ago I stumbled across a link to a forum where someone had written a lot of information on Calciopoli, and it basically said what you're saying here Drughi.
After the the sentences were handed out I've always felt injustice at them, and I have been convinced that Inter were behind it. The Telecom Italia links always seemed to be be more than coincidence to me, and the fact no matches were proven to be fixed destroys the common match fixing theory. I also read that Berlusconi got Milan out of trouble by threatening to withdraw TV money for the league. Their involvement was apparently a lot worse than made out at the time, but Berlusconi's power saved them. I'd like nothing better than to see Massimo Moratti behind bars. |
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| Duncan! |
No way, Moratti is clean and a really fair and decent guy and Inter are deserved champs 
Oh, and pigs really do fly |
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| Giancarlo |
The Moon landing was faked!!!!!!! 9/11 was setup by the Us government!! etc etc. | ||||||||||||||
| Bobo32 |
whats that? is that bitter i smell? | ||||||||||||||
| Drughi |
No you smell shit from Moratti underwear...
Or you just got hands shaked with Zingaro Merda Ibra...so wash it... |
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| zeds |
 Wahey.
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| Myles |
If the alegations i've read are true then won't Milan be relegated to Serie Z, Inter relegated to Serie B, Montezemolo jailed or shot by a Juventino, Juve given compensation, the triade acquited and probably back at Juve and our current sorry excuse of a triade (Secco, Coboli and Blanc) given a barring order from getting within a million miles of La Vecchia Signora.
Is there a new going to be a new trial? If so, will the trial have real lawyers that don't have vested interests in FIAT/Ferrari SpA or Inter? |
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| JuventinoNYC |
Are there any articles online from reports or newspapers that can give us background information, as well as current info?
Is La Gazzetta covering any of this? Or another source? I'd prefer stuff in english, but Italian is ok too. |
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| Myles |
This link is working again: http://www.juventuz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23009 |
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| Myles |
I sent the following email to the guy that started that thread:
---------------------------------------------------------------- Hi, I found your email address at this link: http://superdhepoetz.blogspot.com/2007_10_01_archive.html and i think i saw it on the juventuz.com forum before that was closed down yesterday. Anyway, i was just wondering if you know if there will be a new trial that will include presentations about Moratti's and Montezemolo's involvement in getting Juve demoted in order to enhance their vested interests in Inter and Ferrari respectively? Also, if there is going to be a new trial, will the lawyers, judges and prosecutors have connections to Inter, Fiat and Telecom Italia or will they be 'impartial'? Thanks, regards, Myles ---------------------------------------------------------------- |
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| Myles |
This was the reply:
---------------------------------------------------- Hey Myles, .... If you want to find out the truth about manipulated evidence, investigator suicides, and the role Inter played in the scandal to go to www.facebook.com and create an account (it’s free) and join the group called Calciopoli or Falsopoli; The Truth Behind The Trial That Crippled Juventus found here http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=4407899177. It’s all free and I use it to centralize information and respond to questions. To answer your questions, yes trials are set to take place that have Inter management trembling. The court system that Inter corrupted was the Italian Sports Tribunal but all appeals are now taking place in civil court (Italy) and the European Court of Commerce. They range from class action appeals for the effects of the unlawfulness of the initial trials to personal appeals (Moggi, De Santis) to the re-opening of Calciopoli in Civil Court by League President Matarrese. Montezemolo's role will likely not land him in legal trouble because he knew of what was occurring and insisted that Juventus not defend itself in Civil Court, but he committed no real crime. It would not shock me if he was eventually forced to step down at FIAT however. As far as men like Moratti and Tronchetti, their money will likely come in handy to pay off the multiple fines they are set to face and being forced to step away from soccer is a likely occurance as well. Security Managers from Telecom Italia have already been arrested for illegal espionage and evidence tampering. Their names are Giuliano Tavarolli and Fabio Ghioni and they have already agreed to testify against Tronchetti and Moratti for having made the orders. The charges are criminal charges but the two (Tronchetti and Moratti) are vital to the Italian economy and jail is just unrealistic (in Italy wealth speaks volumes over justice). Tronchetti however has already stepped down as Telecom Chairman after the arrests of his managers. Now Carlo Buare (Inter VP and head of La Gazzetta dello Sport) sits on the Telecom board alongside Moratti. In addition to the Farsopoli trials, Inter faces the very real accounting fraud trial later this year along with Milan that could see their (our) title stripped from them based on the fact that the team was illegally registered for Serie A that year (and others). Thanks for your interest and I hope this helps, Hopefully I'll see your comments online somewhere. FORZA JUVE 29! Giuseppe ---------------------------------------------------- |
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| Myles |
Does anyone know when this new trial starts? | ||||||||||||||
| Giancarlo |
To be honest I'm at the end of my tether with Italian football. I only want to watch a fair game of football and all the crap that goes on in between is getting boring. I know it happens in other countries too but it seems a shame that for someone who would be glued to the TV when any football was on like myself, I'm now not bothering to watch very much and rarely check results. | ||||||||||||||
| Bracey |
Hear, hear! I've become disillusioned with the lot. A few years ago, I was a die-hard, obsessive, committed fan. Now it seems to be one screw-up after another - violence, match-fixing, unfit stadia - what next? It will take a makeover of massive proportions to rekindle my interest in the Italian game. |
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| Drughi |
Myles, I think it will start at end of the month...
Well people, I am disillusioned with people that lead Juve, with fans approach but it is clear that farsical calciopoli killed football. Now you have refs as amateurs, every round you will see mistakes likes in Serie D... It is circus, you have people like Collina merda acting as clowns and our club agreed to take part in comedy... I think chance is missed with civil court ( Montezemolo will burn in hell for it ) to stop soccer and maybe clean this game... Now it is late...police and moron fans, corrupted refs, titles that are won by spying people... 
We are second class league at the moment. |
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| Bobo32 |
Having amateur refs does not mean that the same refs who were pro will lose all their refereeing powers and incapable. They will still be the best referees in Italy. If more training is required, then give it to them. But from what Ive seen they are no worse than refs anywhere else. When was the last time you saw a Serie D match anyway? A second class league containing among the world's best coaches, players, club infrastructures and fans? hmmm... |
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| Myles |
It isn't that every Juve supporter believes all these allegations, it is more so that we want to know the truth about whether or not the calciopoli trial was carried out properly and whether or not we should have been punished. Just looking for the truths, there is nothing wrong with that.
Of course it is mainly Juve supporters who are most concerned, we were the one's affected the most by the calciopoli sentences. Fact is, alot of Inter supporters never shut up about corruption when ourselves and Milan were winning, but now you can't take it when the roles are reversed, tough! |
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| Drughi |
Bobo32, you are genius.
Well said. I agree with you, even you are Inter, Atletico Madrid, Juve, Milan, Fiorentina, Torino, Monaco, Atalanta fan. 
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| Bobo32 |
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| Myles |
Bobo, everyone knows Peter was your alias and you were just taking the piss! Everyone knows man. | ||||||||||||||
| Bobo32 |
haha thats funny. i can see why cos i thought he was well funny but alas no | ||||||||||||||
| Myles |
Yeah right! You're busted! 
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| Myles |
Juve supporters will have their hearing on 15th May, according to Reuters.
Reuters 03/01/08 |
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| Tuten K |
Is this a dumb question, if it then fair enough but Why have these stories never surfaced on calcioitalia website?
Or have they ? |
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| Bobo32 |
juve counter attack and score. inter concdede against the run of play. where have i seen that before myles?
p.s. all the emoticons are on speed. perche? |
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| Myles |
1998.
It was a perfectly good...foul. 
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| Myles |
I think Moggi's hearing in the new trial is 8th February, so maybe they'll report on it then! |
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| Ferri |
I don't get it. Juve fans hate Moggi for what he did, don't want him back but yet still believe they were set up and innocent.
The way I see it Juve fans should either believe they were set up and feel sorry for Moggi and want him back or believe the allegations were true and want Moggi to pay for it. I can't figure how Juve can claim it isn't true though. If Moggi did nothing wrong why did he resign and do the bolt. If I was innocent of allegations made against me I wouldn't be running and then only resurfacing my head after question marks are raised over how legitimate the evidence was obtained. |
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| gurjio |
Fair point Ferri, however, there is a big difference between a board telling you to resign or get sacked and choosing to leave. | ||||||||||||||
| Myles |
Ferri, you can't ask us to decide now, since they are only allegations no-one knows for sure who is really guilty of what yet. When the trial is concluded and the civil court reveals it's judgement then we can decide whether it was a Moggi system or a Montezemolo/Moratti system. Until that happens, we're all in limbo. | ||||||||||||||
| Bobo32 |
For some reason i looked at this thread again and given drughi's staunch anti-inter/moratti stance it wouldnt surprise me of he was peter. hahah
he hasnt posted since. the internet is a weird and wonderful place 
mostly weird |
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| Myles |
Come on now Bobo, we know Peter is your alter ego...maybe you should start a fight club with Peter! 
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| Drughi |
Bobo32...you are official clown of new forum...instead of Ronnie...
Internet is great place for your lack of social life. Lets see...no girlfriend, living in basement with harsh parents, pizza face that cant be cured by ordinary acne medicine. You are nervous for most of the day, hands sweating like hell, losing power to talk in front of schoolmates. Looking at TV, wanting to be soccer player only as way to get some girls...but there is problem, you have no talent. Try with surfing, you dont need to be smart and living on sea wawes will help your skin... Ferri, I dont like Moggi and will agree that he tried to influence refs...but all clubs did it...and only Juve payed for it. I said it is clash in Juventus ranks and part of family wanted him out...but there is nothing with our titles. Look man you were trailing 30 points or so every f**king season and Juventus had whole f**king team in WC finals  and now you claim we stopped you being champions...
Man, with your transfer politics you couldnt win anything...
Most Juve fans dont like Moggi because of other things... you know, Capello, working with Viola at transfer market, making deals with Roma and some things from the past, I dont want to mention...police and other things...but man dont matter, civil court will decide... Italy is only Western country where you are sentenced without trial and need to prove innocence before they convinct you. Lack of democracy...nothing else. |
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| Luftwaffles |
Calciopoli 2: Dry heard from the Prosecutor FIGC 'All right'
16:10 del 09 gennaio 16:10, January 09 16.10 Il ds del Bari, Giorgio Perinetti ha dichiarato all'arrivo in procura federale Figc: "Se si leggono gli atti, ho ben poco da chiarire". 16.10 The ds of Bari, Giorgio Perinetti said upon arrival in Figc Federal Prosecutor: "If you read the documents, I have very little to clarify." 14.45 All'uscita della Procura federale della Figc, il ds juventino Alessio Secco ha dichiarato: "E' andata bene, sono sereno e penso di aver chiarito la mia posizione". At 14.45 of the Federal Prosecutor of the FIGC, ds juventino Alessio Secco said: "It 'went well, I am calm and I think I have clarified my position." 11.40 Il direttore sportivo della Juventus, Alessio Secco è arrivato negli uffici della procura federale della Figc per essere sentito nell'ambito dell'inchiesta sui contenuti delle ultime intercettazioni telefoniche. 11.40 The sports director of Juventus, Alessio Secco arrived in the offices of the Federal Prosecutor FIGC to be heard as part of the contents of the latest telephone interceptions. Il dirigente bianconero è arrivato da solo e prima di entrare si è limitato a dirsi "sereno". The white manager arrived alone and the first to enter merely said "peaceful". Venerdì sarà il turno del vice presidente federale e presidente della Lega Dilettanti, Carlo Tavecchio e del presidente del Torino, Urbano Cairo . Friday will be the turn of the federal president and vice president of the League Amateur, Carlo Tavecchio and President of Turin, Urbano Cairo. Deve ancora essere fissato invece il giorno dell'audizione di Mario Auriemma, ex presidente del Giorgione e del Civitavecchia e padre di Raffaele, ds della Nuorese. It has yet to be fixed instead of the day of Mario Auriemma, former chairman of Giorgione and Civitavecchia and father of Raphael, ds of Nuorese. Settimana prossima dovrebbe toccare a Giulio Pazzanese, dipendente Figc che ha chiesto di essere sentito sulla storia dei biglietti per Moggi. Next week should tap to Julius Pazzanese, FIGC official who asked to be heard on the history of tickets for Moggi. Non si sa se verranno interrogati Ronzani e Catalano. It is not known if questioned Ronzani and Catalan. Forse toccherà anche all'avvocato Gallavotti, consulente Figc da tantissimi anni. Perhaps even touch the suspected Gallavotti, Figc consultant for many years. A fine mese, Palazzi chiuderà l'inchiesta. At the end of the month, Palazzi close the investigation. Intanto l'8 febbraio a Napoli inizia la seconda udienza preliminare per Calciopoli 1. Meanwhile, on 8 February in Naples begins the second preliminary hearing for Calciopoli 1. |
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| Bobo32 |
haha come on man...you gotta be kidding me. this is an even funnier sendup than peter was originally lol |
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| Ferri |
30 points? A slight exaggeration
I’m the first to admit that Inter made many mistakes during the 90’s trying to buy a quick fix. However that problem has been rectified for many years. Moratti no longer sacks a coach every time the weather changes (two coaches in last 7 seasons if you ignore the fill gap measure after Cuper). Also transfers are done within a reasonable budget, majority are frees or low cost purchases and aimed at building an even side rather than relying on individuals. Granted you admit that Juve were receiving some favours from the ref however you can’t possibly believe that from 95-06 Juve didn’t get the better deal. A slave can’t serve two masters. 97 Parma were put to the sword. 98 I wont even mention been done to death. The final rounds leading into God’s gift to Serie A in 00 were farcical. Who could ever forget Cannavaro shaking his head in disbelief when De Santis cancelled his equalising goal for Parma. Ok Inter choke in 02 against Lazio on that day, but the penalty not award by De Santis against Chievo amongst other decisions two rounds before kept you in the championship. Even in 05/06 when you arguably had your best squad over the Moggi era the game v Udinese, Cagliari and Lazio had to raise the question of Moggi’s involvement. From Australia I could predicted the Udinese result was going to go Juve’s way in controversy. Leading into the game I had a lot of friendly banter about how this was the first season Juve would win without controversy as they were that far in front but when Inter reduced the gap to 8 points, a loss to Udinese prior to the Derby D’Italia would have given Inter the chance to bring it back to two with a win in the Derby. I made the call then that Juve would get the result one way or another. What happen? Juve score from an offside position, Muntari gets sent off for a non existent foul, amongst other incidents. The fact that Juve lost probably their two most warranted scudetti under Moggi....I call it poetic justice
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| Myles |
Ferri, you're just picking your games. You can be sure Inter have had goals that should've been disallowed, legit goals scored against Inter that were disallowed, penalties that should or should not have been, etc. What goes around comes around. Generally, the best team attacks the most, hence they will get more penalties and less scored against them which makes sense if the best team has the territorial advantage on average. Stop trying to justify Inter weren't the best team by discrediting other teams, it's called sore looser!
If you go by your metaphorical logic, then you must accept Moratti corruption is the reason why Napoli beat Juve this season, plus the other game we were screwed in, I can't remember who it was, Cagliari or Siena! Inter corruption is why we didn't win those matches? Same logic! |
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| Bobo32 |
interesting presumption of guilt here... Also ferri's argument ("logic") was based over a far longer time period (a decade) with several convincing observations about when said cheating happened. Notably when Juve most needed and advantage (last few games of the season and in the runup to title clashes) and when certain referees were in charge (DeSantis). |
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| Myles |
The whole point of the thread was that your so-called 'court' was a Sporting Court and that it was influenced by Moratti's affiliates.
However a new trial will be conducted by the Civil Courts, you know the type, real courts!!! Not kangaroo courts.
Did you not read what i wrote? I'm sure it was the same for Inter over the same time. "When said Cheating happened" Haha! you must be joking, you think we all keep a file of when a goal should or shouldn't have happened, maybe you do but i'm not that sad! If you think Inter were never given a goal that they shouldn't have got or their opposing team never disallowed a perfectly good goal then you obviously never seen football, it happens to every team. As regards De Santis, he's a well known hater of Juve and supports Milan so yourself and Ferri even mentioning that he favours Juve shows you are just fabricating to support your weak claims. |
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| Liam |
The courts proved nothing. They just came to a conclusion based on a few carefully selected telephone conversations that were published with bits missing to make Moggi seem a lot worse than he actually was. The only fixing in the trial was the trial itself. |
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| Ferri |
Let me help maybe it was Siena, Torino, Lazio or Fiorentina (not to mention penalty not given for Semioli) where Juve scored from questionable David Trezeguay positions, maybe the Roma match were 8 seconds was enough to reverse the throw from Roma to Juve that lead to the Juve equaliser or against Milan where Gila incorrectly given off side. 
No I'm not talking one off decisions here and there, but blatant call after call going against you in crunch games. But pointless argument as we both have our shades on and there's no way we'll see the same colour. Regarding this whole thread personally: Juve were the worst of the lot and benefited most from 95-06. Someone with Inter's interest at heart probably did massage the evidence. Moggi and co thought they were caught with their pants down and did the bolt only to start back tracking once they got a sniff that maybe there's wasn't enough to hold against them. Berlusconi and co never wavered for a minute throughout. Juve penalty was watered down as a result of the evidence. During the whole process la lega was in damage control as they have a product to protect. In the wash Juve walk away with 5 championships with Moggi in charge, probably one more than I thought they were worth, Inter walk away with one gifted wrapped (probably one less than what I thought we were worth). Done dusted and let's get on with it. Hopefully calcio from here on returns to the period post totonero (84-93 were magical days) but I've got no doubts that in 10-20 years from now new investigations into corruption will be under way. 
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| Myles |
As i said, i don't have a file on every game that had a wrong decision made in it by an official, that would be just sad....but obviously you keep a file, get a life!
Every top club has been in many games where incorrect decisions have been made in their favour, as i already said, it's due to territorial advantage. If you think every top club (including Inter) never benefited you are deluded. That's not to say all or any of the incorrect decisions were intentionally made by officials, perhaps some, perhaps none, no-one will ever know.
That's what the sporting trial concluded, however this thread is about whether or not the trial was corrupt, if it was indeed corrupt then their conclusions would be corrupt also.
It is being claimed, the evidence in the sporting trial actually would have penalised Milan the most. As since it would be their second sentence of corruption they would have been relegated down to Serie C2 or at least C1. Berlusconi threatened to pull the plug on the TV deal 3 days before the sentence was handed out, it is being claimed that they were left of the hook due to this, well in the sense that they weren't relegated but just had a points deduction.
I assume you are refering to the game Inter lost to Lazio 4-2. You's did that all by yourself, or if you want someone to blame (as Inte4r supporters usually do) you can blame Poborsky. It's funny that you don't mention Juve's game against Perugia, if we corrupted the league then why was the game not abandoned at halftime after the downpour, since Perugia's half of the pitch was totally waterlogged and Juve's half of the pitch wasn't that bad: Thus making it impossible for Zidane & co to create anything as the ball wouldn't move at all in Perugia's half. You're just picking what suits, not the real overall picture.
Why? because you say it is and you want the final point? If you are tired of talking about it then there's no-need for you to look at the thread anymore. This thread is about the claims of Moratti's involvement in the sporting trial that will be brought up in the new trial. Just incase you were preparing some smartass response to my "It is being claimed..." comments. |
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| Drughi |
Ferri, there is no reason to be nervous...thread is named 'Justice' because Moratti, not you. So he will end in jail...you will just have to return titles you got in spying and corrupted trial...
About other things it is sad to say but losers always find reason in something else and not in own problems...and it is why they continue to lose... |
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| Mezz |
Do excuse me for butting in on the 'Marcello Salas 2' thread, but will this new trial (if it all goes tits-up for Moratti) have any effect on the punishment that Fiorentina was handed?
We lost a large chunk of revenue from being kicked out of the Champions League, and I want it back... |
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| Myles |
Well, i guess Ferri and Bobo seem to rely on the conclusions of the (apparently) corrupt trial for their reason why Juve deserved relegation, what with their adherence to the evidence, yet they seem to be quoting games that don't have any such evidence of match-fixing. Even the Moratti run trial didn't show evidence from those games pre-2005 that Ferri and Bobo seem to use in their arguments.
Apparently Juve are guilty of fixing any match that had a dodgy decision from 1995-2006, yet not 1994 or 1993, only the years we won, it's interitis, sore loosers in layman's language. Of course Inter never had a dodgy decision awarded in their favour between Ferri's concerned period of 1995-2006, never. A message for Ferri and Bobo, the calciopoli I trial says in its' report that their was no evidence of match-fixing concerning Juve or any other game that helped Juve win any titles, so if you want to adhere so stringently to the trials conclusions you shouldn't think Juve fixed any match, that's contradicting the trials conclusions. |
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| Myles |
Mezz, it's not good news for Fiorentina because the only game which seems to have been fixed was a game involving Chievo and Parma, it was a drawn game and thus kept Fiorentina in Serie A, apparently Delle Valle was involved in the fixing. Whether you are deemed to be in breach of article 6 or not is the question, if you are you should have been relegated, but if you are only in breach of article 1 then you are okay because you already served a penalty for that, though i think the penalty for article 1 is only supposed to be 3 points deduction.
This is what been claimed, whether it's true will not be known until the Civil court does it's job. |
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| Myles |
Although, the fixing of the Chievo-Parma game was the conclusion of the calciopoli I trial, which no-one believes, trusts or has any credibility anymore (except for some Interisti). | ||||||||||||||
| Myles |
Moratti reminds me of Franco Sensi. You had a few Romanisti that believed everything that came out of Franco's mouth. Everyone laughed at him and those romanisti, the interisti laughed aswel. Now those interisti seem to be suffering from the same disease.
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| Mezz |
Thanks for that, Myles.
The first trial was all a load of bollocks anyway, so I ain't sweatin' none. |
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| Myles |
I know this thread might seem like Marcello Salas II but the trial concerns the other penalised clubs aswel, especially Milan who could end up in more trouble.
From the Juve point of view, it is wondering whether or not we were screwed, if the trial finds that we weren't screwed i've no problem with that, but if we were i'd like our club cleared because i'm sick of mates who support english teams only, calling us cheats etc, you'd swear it was the supporters who organised match fixing. |
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| Bobo32 |
Its not really sound to tell people to get a life whenever they quote specific games.
Anymore than it is to tell someone to get a life if they set up aan internet forum. Stay grounded pal. |
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| Ferri |
No just a good memory, if I kept a file I'll have added more. I just find it easier to remember the ones that made me laugh the most.
Or admit it
Isn't this the same defence Moggi put up? "Milan used the TV rights this" Milan use their TV rights that" Looks like the Gobbi supporters believe everything Moggi says
no not just 02 but 03 and 98, I referred to the Perugia game earlier in this thread as "God's gift to Serie A". Why should man intervene with what God wants 
Yes I'm tired of this thread but I can't help myself, as there seems to be so few on this forum who take the effort to point you Gobbi in the right direction 
This thread is about an allegation that hasn't even been given a green light to go to the courts yet.
Cheers Drughi appreciate your humour. Funniest guy on the forum. 
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| Drughi |
Thanks Ferri
Didnt see today penalty and Cambiasso goal? But still even you cheat this season, no there will be no title for you. Mensa FC will be only club to be relegated at 100th year
But losers usually have some weird sense of humor...
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| Giancarlo |
I don't think it would be right to pick on anyones penalty after the one I saw given to you guys on Saturday
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| Bobo32 |
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| Drughi |
Even your controled media said it was clear penalty...we were robbed in Catania...even 'it wasnt easy for ref to see Spinesi offside'
So you are just fool or you even didnt see it... Bobo32 still dont have your life? Listen my advice man...you are kid, and when you turn around your best days will be over. Dont worry about skin...just move to seaside. |
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| Bobo32 |
I didnt like the C4 moderating but you would be banned if it was c4 forums. Insulting people anywhere, but particularly online, is lame. It takes no balls. You wouldnt do it in real life so why do it from behind your computer? People are only aggressive and hit out when they dont feel great about themselves. When you feel really good you couldnt give a f**k and wouldnt insult anyone. Go learn some NLP. Take my advice...live life to the full cos when you turn around your best days will be over. Dont worry about skin...just move to seaside. |
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| Liam |
It was a clear penalty. The Inter penalty on Sunday was a joke. |
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| Jimmilson |
I remember reading how Ivanovic was a done deal - now he is....for Chelsea! What happened there?
Hopefully we'll finally buy Barzagli in the summer |
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| Ferri |
Cheers Myles had a good laugh reading over this, so what ever happen with this day of "Justice" in court?
Is it the same court case about GEA or Swiss mobiles
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| Myles |
 Fair enough.
Though i did state i was refering to allegations. That was my 'if i'm full of shit they aren't my quotes' clause.
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