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DP

Forza Genoa!

There's only one team i support, but i really like the look of Genoa this season. Granted, their defence is utter gash, but if they can switch to a back four and go 4-3-3 they might stop leaking goals and build on last season.

Looking at their signing's so far, you can't help but be impressed: bringing back Ranocchia, bringinh in Rafinha, Eduardo, Miguel Veloso, Luca Toni and buying Criscito outright was a great bit of business.

Anyone else reckon they'll be this seasons Samp ?
Liam

Genoa were very good 2 seasons ago, but then they lost Milito and Motta last summer.

I must admit I admire the way they seem to change their entire team each summer, yet still remain competitive.

This time around they appear to have done well again, although they won't find another striker as good as Milito.  Veloso could well be the midfielder they needed a year ago when Motta went, whilst Ranocchia should be excellent in defence if he's recovered from his injury.

I think they're capable of challenging for a Champions League place, like they did 2 seasons ago, but it'll be tougher than last year as Juve should be much improved this year.
Guest

Palermo are doing Ok, with a couple of south american players they have brought in. Pastore looks like a handy player
DP

Inter still look the strongest side in Serie A by a country mile with us, Roma and Meelan all vying for second spot. Beyond that, it looks very open again.

Fiorentina, if they can sign a few addtional players and keep hold of Gila, should be right in the mix - Same goes for Napoli who have held off interest in Hamsik and Lavezzi and bought in Cavani. Genoa are going to be up there as well.

Can't understand Palermo at all - Then again, trying to understand them is trying to unravel the logic of Zampa - impossible! let's Cavani leave on loan, and Kjaer for 12.5m ?!?
Guest

I was actually going to post something when I saw they'd bought Rafinha (following up on Criscito and Veloso) along the lines of 'I don't know who he is but I kind of wish Juve had gone for Genoa's sporting director'.

Motta and Milito were quality signings and they seem to keep pulling them out of the bag.

Probably finish 5th or 6th.
DP

Micky wrote:
'I don't know who he is but I kind of wish Juve had gone for Genoa's sporting director'.



Stefano Capozucca and he seems to be on par with Marotta - moves very quietly and quickly to get the players before other teams start sniffing around
DP

Preziosi announces “we’ll sign Kevin Prince Boateng, but loan him out to another team.”

It's not wrong to favour a team that has so many ex-Juve, is it ?
Guest

delpiero wrote:
Preziosi announces “we’ll sign Kevin Prince Boateng, but loan him out to another team.”

It's not wrong to favour a team that has so many ex-Juve, is it ?


What is the point in loaning him ot to another team? He is good enough isnt he?
DP

I didn't like Preziosi's comments at all when it comes to his players. He seems quite content to to get a decent season out of them and then sell them on. Given the way they've operated in the market, you'd think this was a long term project ?

Anyway, Genoa top of the table - Good for them, they worked hard for it, fully deserved. Their defence needs a little work and they may need another striker if Toni is crocked...
zeds

They've bought in some very interesting players. Perhaps the most happening Serie A club at present.
DP

They've just bolstered their ranks with Linus Hallenius:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoPhnunY0dU
Myles

Kaladze is officially a Genoa player.
Myles

Genoa - Inter: 2nd half

Edit: embeded stream removed because it started acting the bollox.

Other links

http://www.veetle.com/index.php/channel/view#4cc7570721997 (english commentary)

http://fullsports2009.blogspot.com/2008/10/directv-sports.html

http://foxsports02.blogspot.com/2010/09/channel-2.html

http://www.vipcanals.org/ch2.html

http://www.veetle.com/index.php/channel/view#4ca4f36e7dd9a
Myles

All these streams keep breaking up, it's probably my connection though, mobile broadband ain't the best for streamin'.
Yockomo

Obviously not many Genoa fans on here. The last post dated 29 Oct 2010!

Forza Genoa! We'll cetainly need to play well if we are to stay up. We have been 1-0 up against the bottom two teams in the last two matches and have ended up drawing 1-1 in both, which isn't good enough. Especially with the momentum (luck?) being with Lecce.

Next Match? Away to Milan!!!! Oh well.

A friend of mine assures me that Genoa will cause an upset. I think Torres has more chance of scoring for Chelsea. We could do with Gilardino scoring! He was also insitent that Napoli will trounce Lecce to ease the pressure.

I'm not holding out much hope.

I don't suppose it helps when you sack your coach in December. Then sack the new coach with 8 games left and replace him with the coach you sacked in December! What's all that about?
Mezz

Yockomo wrote:
I don't suppose it helps when you sack your coach in December. Then sack the new coach with 8 games left and replace him with the coach you sacked in December! What's all that about?

I heard a stat a few weeks ago that stated 10 of the 20 clubs in Serie A had changed coach this season, and half of those 10 had re-appointed the person they had sacked in the first place in order to bring in the guy they were sacking now.

This pattern seems far more prevalent in Italy than any other major footballing country, so perhaps it's a cultural thing?
Liam

It's a combination of cost and the rules in Italy that result in coaches being reappointed often.  For the club, they're still paying the contract of the sacked coach, so they might as well pay him to do something.

For the coach, they can't work at another club in that season, so they might as well take the chance to try and boost their reputation.
Mezz

...and that has wrapped the question up very nicely!
Lupo Pazzesco

I'm sorry I missed the Ultras protest this afternoon. Did ESPN show any of it prior to the live match this evening?
Liam

I was half watching it, switching between the Milan-Bologna game, and the protest.

It has to be one of the most bizarre things I've seen on a football pitch, when Marco Rossi collected all his teammates shirts, and went over to hand them to the Ultras.

I admire Sculli for refusing.  I wish his teammates had done the same.  In the end Sculli probably resolved the issue.
Yockomo

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I don't suppose it helps when you sack your coach in December. Then sack the new coach with 8 games left and replace him with the coach you sacked in December! What's all that about?[/quote]

And then sack that coach after 2 games and get someone else in.

What's all that about?



Are Genoa likely to be deducted point because of the Ultras? It wont matter anyway. Serie B beckons and a derby with Sampdoria.
Roma Girl

They will probably just get a stadium ban. Possibly to the end of the season
Yockomo

Liam wrote:
I was half watching it, switching between the Milan-Bologna game, and the protest.

It has to be one of the most bizarre things I've seen on a football pitch, when Marco Rossi collected all his teammates shirts, and went over to hand them to the Ultras.

I admire Sculli for refusing.  I wish his teammates had done the same.  In the end Sculli probably resolved the issue.


It turns out that Sculli knew about the protest in advance and his part in it was designed to make him look the hero. He's been banned for a month and Genoa fined 30,000 euros.

http://www.football-italia.net/25956/sculli-banned-ultras-protest
Liam

That Sculli story made me laugh I must say.  One of those odd stories that seem unique to Italy.
Guest

This coming from Lazio scum? Doesn't surprise me one bit.    
Tangerine Romanista

Liam wrote:
That Sculli story made me laugh I must say.  One of those odd stories that seem unique to Italy.

Yep. The whole thing was totally bizarre and at the time I genuinely had respect for Sculli for standing up to the Ultras.....

Only in Italy as you say Liam....

Though saying that, I'm sure South American football has its fair share of bizarre Ultra related episodes...
Yockomo

Yockomo wrote:
[quote="
I don't suppose it helps when you sack your coach in December. Then sack the new coach with 8 games left and replace him with the coach you sacked in December! What's all that about?


And then sack that coach after 2 games and get someone else in.

What's all that about?

[/quote]

Yet another coach for Genoa. Gigi Del Neri, Previously of Sampdoria, and Juventus. Was he any good?
Liam

Delneri will probably be suited to the Genoa job.  The Juventus job was too big for him, like the Porto and Roma ones earlier in his career.  His times at Chievo and Sampdoria were outstanding, and he's proved adept at getting a lot from limited resources.

I'm surprised it's taken him this long to find a job tbh.
Tangerine Romanista

Tangerine Romanista wrote:
Liam wrote:
That Sculli story made me laugh I must say.  One of those odd stories that seem unique to Italy.

Yep. The whole thing was totally bizarre and at the time I genuinely had respect for Sculli for standing up to the Ultras.....

Only in Italy as you say Liam....

Though saying that, I'm sure South American football has its fair share of bizarre Ultra related episodes...

I'm definitely buying a lottery ticket this week...

http://globovision.com/articulo/s...ico-venezuela-por-polemica-camisa

TRANSLATION

Quote:
Suspended match Deportivo Tachira - Venezuela by controversy Athletic shirt

This Sunday at the Pueblo Nuevo stadium in San Cristobal, the meeting was scheduled for the date football eleven Apertura between Deportivo Tachira and Atlético Venezuela, however, an irregular situation unexpectedly ended with a decision: "the suspension of game. "

During the week, the team Deportivo Tachira promoted its partnership with Help Breast Foundation, to join the campaign in the fight against breast cancer. As a first step the aurinegros decided to give free entry to the meeting the ladies to be presented with a pink garment.

The other decision of Tachira and kept as a surprise, was that the school would play with a special edition of their jerseys, pink in honor of the ladies who have the disease and, of course, to give greater strength and impact campaign, which used subsequently to auction and generate some income to the foundation.

However, once the teams were presented and when the national anthem was sung, a group of about seventy fans entered the field of popular tribune south to the edge of the track adjacent to the field, seizing the moment to authorities take unawares and from there they began to sing to show their dissatisfaction with the action taken at the institution.

The parties did not yield

The presence of the fans within the scenario was answered the actions of a group of National Guards, who made a security cordon to prevent the advance of the group. Campus by Andres Rouga aurinegro Captain Pedro Fernandez experienced and came to explain to the fans the intention of the decision, but no agreement was reached.

"It may be that the behavior of 30 misfits try to tarnish the image of the best fans in the country." The team president Juana Suarez

Finally the campus president, Juana Suárez, wearing the famous pink jersey, two representatives called for a meeting of the group, but also a consensus was reached. Táchira While maintaining the field and in the circumstances, Atletico Venezuela preferred refuge in the lower, but after fifty minutes after the scheduled time for the match, the delegate of the Venezuelan Football Federation, told the teams that game was suspended, and that would be the advice of honor in the Federation who shall decide what action to take.

He spoke Rouga

Captain Andrew Rouga Carousel, who managed to talk to the group entered the field, said he spoke with Edmund Kabchi, one of the owners of the school, who informed him that there would be no change of shirt. Kabchi, meanwhile, in a message on his Twitter account wrote: "It may be that the behavior of 30 misfits attempt to tarnish the image of the best fans in the country." The team president Joanna Suarez, meanwhile, lamented the situation and said that it will take some measures also apologized to the families who attended, and reported that a refund of the tickets.
Liam

I watched River-Boca yesterday, and the 2nd half was delayed because a giant inflatable pig in a Boca shirt was floating around.  It was deemed offensive.  In the same fixture a few years ago I remember Carlos Tevez being sent off for celebrating a goal by dancing like a chicken.  That is an insult to River Plate fans.
Domenic

I suppose this is one way for Preziosi to get around his stadium ban...

Yockomo

A cardboard cut out defence may do better for Genoa at the moment!

To be fair I watched the Genoa Fiorentina match the other week and the problem wasn't the defence (although they weren't good), but that Genoa did not look like scoring. I don't think they created one real chance.
VinciPerNoiMagicaBrescia

Yockomo wrote:
A cardboard cut out defence may do better for Genoa at the moment!

To be fair I watched the Genoa Fiorentina match the other week and the problem wasn't the defence (although they weren't good), but that Genoa did not look like scoring. I don't think they created one real chance.


way too many injuries and chopping and changing at Genoa at the moment. unfortunately it might be another season fighting for against the drop unless borriello can come back and start scoring
VinciPerNoiMagicaBrescia

feeling very sorry for those wonderful fans and especially frey! Genoa just do not have the quality or the fire to turn this into a real derby! Sampdoria just seem to be more hungry and understand the importance of the game more. Frey has alone kept this game turning into a basketball score. I still have a strange feeling genoa will come back with so many good chances wasted by Doria and especially Icardi who has wasted two huge opportunities.

comical auto goal by bovo  
Yockomo

I saw the end of the 1st half and first 20 minutes of the 2nd half and Genoa looked much better with Vargas on the field. He straight away started to create chances. It may have been different if Genoa had taken the chances at the start of the 2nd half.

It doesn't look good.

Not a good day for me. Both my boys teams lost on Sunday morning and then this. Oh well. At least Brentford got an 89th minute equaliser away to Preston on Saturday.
VinciPerNoiMagicaBrescia

Yockomo wrote:
I saw the end of the 1st half and first 20 minutes of the 2nd half and Genoa looked much better with Vargas on the field. He straight away started to create chances. It may have been different if Genoa had taken the chances at the start of the 2nd half.

It doesn't look good.

Not a good day for me. Both my boys teams lost on Sunday morning and then this. Oh well. At least Brentford got an 89th minute equaliser away to Preston on Saturday.


First half Doria were in control, but Genoa were great in the second half.

I have to be honest and say that Football won last night. The game was fantastic, the players behaved in a wonderful way and the atmosphere was an absolute credit to the city of Genova. Best match I have seen in Serie A this season.

commiserations
Yockomo

I may have to follow someone else in Serie A next season. Livorno or Brescia maybe? I hear they're okay! I'll still be following Genoa in Serie B. At least we might win a few games. It would be disloyal removing my Genoa car sticker too. Then again we may see a revival in Genoa's fortunes! Doesn't seem likely at the moment.

At times like this you need someone to talk to. I've tried drumming up support amongst my friends for Genoa so I have a shoulder to cry on, but I've only persuaded one and he lives 300 miles away! I'll have to up my efforts. Another revealed he'd always liked Napoli.
fantas1sta

Yockomo wrote:
I may have to follow someone else in Serie A next season. Livorno or Brescia maybe? I hear they're okay! I'll still be following Genoa in Serie B. At least we might win a few games. It would be disloyal removing my Genoa car sticker too. Then again we may see a revival in Genoa's fortunes! Doesn't seem likely at the moment.

At times like this you need someone to talk to. I've tried drumming up support amongst my friends for Genoa so I have a shoulder to cry on, but I've only persuaded one and he lives 300 miles away! I'll have to up my efforts. Another revealed he'd always liked Napoli.
TBH, I think Preziosi, the president, is a big part of the problem.  I personally think he might be the 2nd worst after Zamparini, and based on last season and this one so far, Genoa and Palermo are the two biggest under-achievers in the league.  So often it seems like his main focus is just to sell players, Genoa have such a high squad turnover from year to year.  Also doesn't really help that the Portuguese and Brazilian players they signed over the last few years all flopped.  I don't think changing coaches AGAIN will help much either.  Delneri has a great track record with small and middling teams, not sure who else they can find who would do better.
Yockomo

I agree about the squad turnover and size. I don't know how accurate it is but if you look on Wikipedia, excluding the playing squad, it shows Genoa having 27 Players out on loan and 18 players co owned. Any players who are any good are sold. If you were building a team to challenge for silverware, keeping your Palacio's, Criscito's, Milito's and Motta's etc would be a good idea. As for Preziosi. I couldn't agree more.
VinciPerNoiMagicaBrescia

Yockomo wrote:
I agree about the squad turnover and size. I don't know how accurate it is but if you look on Wikipedia, excluding the playing squad, it shows Genoa having 27 Players out on loan and 18 players co owned. Any players who are any good are sold. If you were building a team to challenge for silverware, keeping your Palacio's, Criscito's, Milito's and Motta's etc would be a good idea. As for Preziosi. I couldn't agree more.


There is no point in further dwelling on players who were and genoa and got sold. its gone now. the issue now is staying in Serie A. for the health of the league, it is imperative that Doria and Genoa are healthy and competing at this level.

Genoa have done what Udinese are doing right now, but Udinese are slowly feeling the effects because they have Di Natale and a better scouting network. You cannot continue to sell your best players and keep thinking you can replace them with players who will grow and be as good. But right now, Salvation is the immediate problem. Genoa have to stay in Serie A.
Yockomo

We finally win a match at home, but then two of the teams above us (Pescara and Sampdoria) go and get away wins! Sampdoria win away at Juve with 10 men! What happened there? Still we are out of the relegation zone for a week. Away to Cagliari next week who are one point behind us. Back in the bottom three then!

As you can tell I'm brimming with confidence that Genoa will steadily climb up the table. Europa League and Arsenal here we come!
Yockomo

Yet another coach. Ballardini who according to Wikipedia was sacked by Genoa in June 2011 for 'no particular reason'? It's on Wkipedia so it must be true!

I don't think they should have sacked De Canio. He'll probably be back by March anyway.
Lupo Pazzesco

Yockomo wrote:
Yet another coach. Ballardini who according to Wikipedia was sacked by Genoa in June 2011 for 'no particular reason'? It's on Wkipedia so it must be true!

I don't think they should have sacked De Canio. He'll probably be back by March anyway.


My Dad is amazed by the managerial merry go round in Italy especially when coaches are re-instated months after being sacked. Good luck with the new manager!
Yockomo

Luck may be what he's briinging us if you look at the Juve match, with Juve being denied a penalty. When you are in the relegation zone you need a bit of luck. I haven't looked at the Juve thread yet, but I'm sure they're not happy. Still top though.
Lupo Pazzesco

Great result against the gobbi with a good goal by Marco. Their reaction to the perceived injustice was hilarious! Conte will be as bald as Marotta if this run of results continues.

I think Siena are done for and then it's any two from six teams that will be relegated. You're right about the need for luck in a relegation fight, I just hope you get your fair share.
Yockomo

Safe!
Can we please just have a nice quiet time next season without worrying about relegation? Probably not. According to the Footbal Italia website they are considering replacing Ballardini with Del Neri as coach again next season. That'll be good. We got 8 points in 13 games when he was in charge. Still I suppose they should try and find him something to do as he's still in contract earning 1.5 m euros.
Lupo Pazzesco

Firstly congratulations on staying up!

Strange news on the incoming manager, you may still be paying Del Neri but I wouldn't re-appoint him after the disaster of his last spell in charge. What's the point in going backwards with him other than to save money? Get Zeman in (if your heart could stand it that is)!
Yockomo

I've been holding off posting anything this season as things have been going okay. However after the dismal performance at Roma, my fears have been realised and we have finally been exposed.

Not one shot in the entire match. Not even a long range effort!

Genoa have been playing badly most of the season and we struggle to create any chances. We have only had more shots than the opposition in two matches. Home to Sassuolo and Livorno and we beat Samdoria 3-0 with only 4 shots in the match. Gilardino (playing well) is left to do too much work on his own up front. Unless we get a good midfielder to replace the injured Kucka and the ineffective Lodi and a good young striker, we will be in another relegation battle. We can't rely on Perin performing heroics in goal every match. The weak midfield leaves the (ageing) defence exposed too much. A stronger midfield will also leave Fetfatsidis and others free to create chances for the strikers. If Gilardino gets a good chance he will usually score but he needs more support.

There. Got it off my chest.
Yockomo

Thought I'd write something just to get Genoa back on the first page.

Cheers.

Oh and we beat Milan at the weekend. Not sure how but we did!
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