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Post 14-03-08 20:47
Big Rumour going round that the champions league draw was leaked. This was posted on the Liverpool Echo this morning this morning before the draw.

http://forums.liverpoolecho.co.uk...s=0&postorder=asc&start=0

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Post 14-03-08 20:50
A load of bollocks imo.  Someone happened to successfully predict the draw, and as bookies weren't taking bets on it came to this conclusion.  People have successfully predicted draws in tournaments before and they will do again.  It doesn't mean they're rigged.
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Post 14-03-08 21:40
Yep just me being a sensationalist  

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Post 14-03-08 23:01
It is a remarkable coincidence, though -

Some time before the draw, predictions of the ties emerge. Bookies, it is alleged, stop taking bets (not, it appears, that many of them were taking them in the first place)

When the draw is made, the predictions (the 'leak') prove to be100% correct down to which side has home advantage in the first tie.

Given the array of half-baked conspiracy theories which have only a passing acquaintance with coincidence, it's no wonder that people smell a rodent of some description, rightly or wrongly...

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Post 14-03-08 23:06
i posted thie above link in the Roma thread earlier. Call me naive but I think there's definitely something in this. It's not just the fact that the guy incidently provides the correct predictions, but it's compounded by him being so confident with his 'predictions' that he alleges that the draw has been leaked a good couple of hours before it's supposedly taken place live.

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Post 16-03-08 14:44
I have no doubts that it's rigged.  I mean, how many people are going to watch a final between Shalke and Fenerbache?

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Post 16-03-08 17:05
I didnt know that the guy had posted which teams would be playing the home leg first etc! I thought he had just posted the pairings, but to actually then go onto correctly post which team plays the home leg first! Hmmm.  

Theyll have to be a little more careful next year

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Post 16-03-08 17:55
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I have no doubts that it's rigged.  I mean, how many people are going to watch a final between Shalke and Fenerbache?


True - but in that case you'd rig the draw so that the pair met in the quarter finals to completely destroy that possibility...

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Post 16-03-08 18:07
If it has been rigged, I can't see for the life of me quite what they were trying to achieve with the draw...

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Post 16-03-08 18:20
Surely Abramovich could have worked it out in little better for his boys So far, so good: Olympiacos in the second round, Fenerbahce in the quarters. He should have ensured a meeting with Schalke /Roma in the semis (no disrespect to Roma), But then, that could be too obvious, especially given the recent word-of-mouth leakage.

In all honesty though, I dont think its been rigged, it just seems extremely suspicious.

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Post 16-03-08 18:31
I suppose the following possibilities arise:

1. Remove 1 English team before semis
2. Give Barca a (theoretically) easy passage into the semi
3. Have a good TV game - Roma seeking revenge for last year.
4. Good result for UEFA whoever wins (3)
5. Give Chelsea a (theoretically) easy passage into the semis
6. If (5) comes off, remove one more English team, but...
7. Have guaranteed English presence (good for TV figures) in the final.

You could also add the thrills and spills of a Barca vs Man Utd semi (no offence intended, Roma fans - if I were a Man Utd fan I'd be a little worried by the tie).

Without being rude, I can't help wondering whether the cry of 'rigging it's a disgrace ' would have rung so loud from Merseyside had Liverpool drawn Schalke or if the bloke complaining had been allowed to place his bet at William Hill. In all of this, no-one seems to be noting that the complainant, rather than going to the press with his scoop about the rigging instead went to his local betting shop to try and pull one over on the bookies and only moaned when told that he couldn't do so...

Perhaps I'm just getting cynical...

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Post 16-03-08 21:29
The draw is rigged from the start anyway.

"Oh wait, you can't be in the same group as them because there are already two English teams playing their first game on a Wednesday night".

"Every team must be seeded. We cannot have a group with Barca, Milan and ManYoo, it'd be a threat to the establishment".

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Post 16-03-08 22:11
How much does a visa cost to go and see the final?

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Post 27-08-09 17:33
Inter/Barca
AC Milan/Real Madrid
Bayern/Juve

Good draw for us...so far
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Post 27-08-09 17:40
Fiorentina get Liverpool and Lyon  
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Post 27-08-09 17:41
Liverpool/ Lyon/ Fiorentina

Damn!!

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Post 27-08-09 17:54
Full Draw:

Group A
Bayern Munich
Juventus
Bordeaux
Maccabi Haifa

Group B
Man Utd
CSKA Moscow
Besiktas
Wolfsburg

Group C
Milan
Real Madrid
Marseille
FC Zurich

Group D
Chelsea
Porto
Atletico Madrid
APOEL Nicosia

Group E
Liverpool
Lyon
Fiorentina
Debrecen

Group F
Barcelona
Inter
Dinamo Kiev
Rubin Kazan

Group G
Sevilla
Rangers
Stuttgart
Unirea Urziceni

Group H
Arsenal
AZ Alkmaar
Olympiakos
Standard Liege
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Post 27-08-09 18:10
ForzaFiori wrote:
Liverpool/ Lyon/ Fiorentina

Damn!!


tough, not impossible

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Post 27-08-09 18:48
delpiero wrote:

Group A
Bayern Munich
Juventus
Bordeaux
Maccabi Haifa


Can't complain.

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Post 27-08-09 18:48
As I said on Salas, not too bad.
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